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Old 19th Jan 2020, 12:13 pm   #1
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Default Berry Magicoal 478 - coal effect plastic section

Hi - can anyone help me to find a replacement for the coal effect plastic section of a Magicoal fire? I am attaching a photo of the fire.

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Old 21st Jan 2020, 9:37 pm   #2
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Default Re: Berry Magicoal 478 - coal effect plastic section

If no one can suggest a source, then you might consider making a new fuel effect, or repairing the old one.

GRP modelling materials are readily available. If your modelling skills are not up to this it might be worth asking a model railway group if anyone can assist. Many railway modellers make very realistic hills, mountains, cuttings etc.

Alternatively a local theatre group might have a skilled prop maker who can make what you want.
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Old 21st Jan 2020, 10:10 pm   #3
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Default Re: Berry Magicoal 478 - coal effect plastic section

That looks like something which could be used as the former for 'vacuum-forming'.

Basically, you put something like clingfilm over the original, then fit it on top of an airtight box. Layer resin-saturated GRP-tissue over the top, and then use a vacuum-cleaner to suck the air out from underneath. The new GRP tissue gets sucked tight over the original, so it follows all the original contours.

Then once the resin's gone-off, the clingfilm acts as a 'release' so you can peel the old thing away from underneath your newly-moulded replacement.

I've used this technique to re-create a bunch of 1970s car-dashboard panels/inserts, and it works remarkably well.
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Old 22nd Jan 2020, 6:39 pm   #4
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Default Re: Berry Magicoal 478 - coal effect plastic section

...How much heat is that coal-effect section exposed to with the lamps on underneath..? Is it definitely plastic?
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Old 22nd Jan 2020, 10:09 pm   #5
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The ones that I have seen look as though they are made of GRP, which is somewhat heat resistant.
They get hot in use and become brittle, but I have never seen a melted one.
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Old 23rd Jan 2020, 12:54 pm   #6
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Default Re: Berry Magicoal 478 - coal effect plastic section

The ones I have seen have had a sheet of rippled glass arranged over the fan that gets rotated by the heat of the lamp to produce the flicker. The glass spreads the heated air over a wider area than if it were absent and probably also absorbs and redistributes some of the radiant heat from the bulb.
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Old 23rd Jan 2020, 2:31 pm   #7
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I prefer my Berry Fire, the main reason being it is almost silent in operation unlike our modern fire which is noisy, unfortunately Iíve been outvoted and the Berry is no longer in the house.
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