Virtual Valve Museum - UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum

M0FYA Andy · 16th Aug 2021, 4:55 pm

Does anyone know what has happened to this website of CV-numbered valves? All I get is a warning of an 'unsafe site'.

https://www.valvecollector.uk

Andy

GMB · 16th Aug 2021, 5:08 pm

Works fine for me (assuming I am looking at the same thing).

You are probably being protected from accessing a web site that might be dangerously interesting, due to some issue with certificates (or lack of them).

When you see that stupid message try looking in the "advanced" bit for the details. It usually turns out that their certificate for HTTPS has just expired which I regard as a very minor security issue.

ThePillenwerfer · 16th Aug 2021, 6:57 pm

If you're referring to what I've circled below it simply means the the site is using plain HTTP rather than the secure HTTPS protocol. Given that you'll only be viewing the site rather than entering any sensitive information into it I wouldn't (and don't) worry about it.

M0FYA Andy · 16th Aug 2021, 7:24 pm

It was still misbehaving when accessed via my favourites bar, using either IE or Firefox. Going via Google to find the address https://www.valvecollector.uk it worked fine, so I have deleted it as a favourite and replaced it and it now works as it should. Very odd!

Andy

ms660 · 16th Aug 2021, 8:16 pm

Accessible here and showing secure site (padlock) seconds before I typed this message.

Lawrence.

JonSnell · 17th Aug 2021, 7:10 am

I get this when using FireFox as my browser, Safari gets upset and thinks I am an imbosile for trying to look at an "unsecure" site. This message can easily be placed in a list of trusted sites.
No idea about microsoft.

M0FYA Andy · 17th Aug 2021, 8:48 am

I see that a couple of replies here mention the 'r-type' valve museum website; this is not the same valve museum as the one I was discussing.

Andy

Station X · 17th Aug 2021, 8:57 am

Perhaps you could supply a link to the valve museum you are discussing then.

M0FYA Andy · 17th Aug 2021, 9:46 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Station X

Perhaps you could supply a link to the valve museum you are discussing then.

Already done, see post #4.

Andy

Station X · 17th Aug 2021, 9:54 am

Edited into first post.

ms660 · 17th Aug 2021, 10:30 am

Still ok here a few minutes ago.

Lawrence.

M0FYA Andy · 17th Aug 2021, 10:39 am

As I said in post #4, it is also working OK for me now.
The problem was somehow associated with accessing it via my Favourites bar, but strangely using either IE or Firefox. Deleting it as a favourite and then re-entering the address cured the problem.

Andy

ms660 · 17th Aug 2021, 11:00 am

That screen shot was taken using Windows 10/Edge, not used Firefox for years so can't comment on that.

Lawrence.

Jeremy M0RVB · 17th Aug 2021, 11:54 am

Odd. The server is set up to redirect http to https on first contact so there should never be an issue. Apache sends a 301 redirect so the browser should immediately go to the https page, unless browsers are beginning to look into and whinge about redirections before redirecting...

Edit: a thought, I wonder if an old page has some http: references inside. I thought I had got all of them but I will have another look. That would / should cause a warning.

whiskas · 17th Aug 2021, 8:55 pm

I use Brave most of the time and that site works just fine,...

crackle · 25th Aug 2021, 9:36 am

both links in #1 & #4 work for me.
Mike

JonSnell · 2nd Sep 2021, 7:55 am

Firefox version 92.0 beta, has no issues. Safari Version 15.0 is also fine.
Firefox is downloading a newer version and has to restart so I will let you know in a few moments.

Firefox 92.0 full public version is also fine. Maybe the browser history needs clearing because it is looking for an out of date page.

16th Aug 2021, 5:08 pm	#2
GMB Dekatron Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: near Reading (and sometimes Torquay) Posts: 3,092	Re: Virtual Valve Museum Works fine for me (assuming I am looking at the same thing). You are probably being protected from accessing a web site that might be dangerously interesting, due to some issue with certificates (or lack of them). When you see that stupid message try looking in the "advanced" bit for the details. It usually turns out that their certificate for HTTPS has just expired which I regard as a very minor security issue.

16th Aug 2021, 6:57 pm	#3
ThePillenwerfer Octode Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Sheffield, South Yorkshire, UK. Posts: 1,453	Re: Virtual Valve Museum If you're referring to what I've circled below it simply means the the site is using plain HTTP rather than the secure HTTPS protocol. Given that you'll only be viewing the site rather than entering any sensitive information into it I wouldn't (and don't) worry about it. Attached Thumbnails __________________ "Experts are only good at one thing: explaining why something will not work!"

16th Aug 2021, 8:16 pm	#5
ms660 Dekatron Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Cornwall, UK. Posts: 13,454	Re: Virtual Valve Museum Accessible here and showing secure site (padlock) seconds before I typed this message. Lawrence.

17th Aug 2021, 7:10 am	#6
JonSnell Hexode Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Weymouth, Dorset, UK. Posts: 475	Re: Virtual Valve Museum I get this when using FireFox as my browser, Safari gets upset and thinks I am an imbosile for trying to look at an "unsecure" site. This message can easily be placed in a list of trusted sites. No idea about microsoft. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Valve equipment repairs since 1968 https://jonsnell.co.uk Last edited by Radio Wrangler; 17th Aug 2021 at 9:03 am. Reason: OS wars remark removed

17th Aug 2021, 8:48 am	#7
M0FYA Andy Nonode Join Date: May 2007 Location: Preston, Lancashire, UK. Posts: 2,511	Re: Virtual Valve Museum I see that a couple of replies here mention the 'r-type' valve museum website; this is not the same valve museum as the one I was discussing. Andy

16th Aug 2021, 4:55 pm	#1
M0FYA Andy Nonode Join Date: May 2007 Location: Preston, Lancashire, UK. Posts: 2,511	Virtual Valve Museum Does anyone know what has happened to this website of CV-numbered valves? All I get is a warning of an 'unsafe site'. https://www.valvecollector.uk Andy

16th Aug 2021, 7:24 pm	#4
M0FYA Andy Nonode Join Date: May 2007 Location: Preston, Lancashire, UK. Posts: 2,511	Re: Virtual Valve Museum It was still misbehaving when accessed via my favourites bar, using either IE or Firefox. Going via Google to find the address https://www.valvecollector.uk it worked fine, so I have deleted it as a favourite and replaced it and it now works as it should. Very odd! Andy

17th Aug 2021, 8:57 am	#8
Station X Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ipswich, Suffolk, IP4, UK. Posts: 21,286	Re: Virtual Valve Museum Perhaps you could supply a link to the valve museum you are discussing then. __________________ Graham. Forum Moderator Reach for your meter before you reach for your soldering iron.

17th Aug 2021, 9:54 am	#10
Station X Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ipswich, Suffolk, IP4, UK. Posts: 21,286	Re: Virtual Valve Museum Edited into first post. __________________ Graham. Forum Moderator Reach for your meter before you reach for your soldering iron.

17th Aug 2021, 10:30 am	#11
ms660 Dekatron Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Cornwall, UK. Posts: 13,454	Re: Virtual Valve Museum Still ok here a few minutes ago. Lawrence. Attached Thumbnails

17th Aug 2021, 10:39 am	#12
M0FYA Andy Nonode Join Date: May 2007 Location: Preston, Lancashire, UK. Posts: 2,511	Re: Virtual Valve Museum As I said in post #4, it is also working OK for me now. The problem was somehow associated with accessing it via my Favourites bar, but strangely using either IE or Firefox. Deleting it as a favourite and then re-entering the address cured the problem. Andy

17th Aug 2021, 11:00 am	#13
ms660 Dekatron Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Cornwall, UK. Posts: 13,454	Re: Virtual Valve Museum That screen shot was taken using Windows 10/Edge, not used Firefox for years so can't comment on that. Lawrence.

17th Aug 2021, 11:54 am	#14
Jeremy M0RVB Hexode Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK. Posts: 458	Re: Virtual Valve Museum Odd. The server is set up to redirect http to https on first contact so there should never be an issue. Apache sends a 301 redirect so the browser should immediately go to the https page, unless browsers are beginning to look into and whinge about redirections before redirecting... Edit: a thought, I wonder if an old page has some http: references inside. I thought I had got all of them but I will have another look. That would / should cause a warning.

17th Aug 2021, 8:55 pm	#15
whiskas Octode Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Knutsford, Cheshire, UK. Posts: 1,488	Re: Virtual Valve Museum I use Brave most of the time and that site works just fine,... __________________ ...where on earth did that spring/screw go??

25th Aug 2021, 9:36 am	#16
crackle Rest in Peace Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Basildon, Essex, UK. Posts: 4,100	Re: Virtual Valve Museum both links in #1 & #4 work for me. Mike

2nd Sep 2021, 7:55 am	#17
JonSnell Hexode Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Weymouth, Dorset, UK. Posts: 475	Re: Virtual Valve Museum Firefox version 92.0 beta, has no issues. Safari Version 15.0 is also fine. Firefox is downloading a newer version and has to restart so I will let you know in a few moments. Firefox 92.0 full public version is also fine. Maybe the browser history needs clearing because it is looking for an out of date page. __________________ Valve equipment repairs since 1968 https://jonsnell.co.uk Last edited by JonSnell; 2nd Sep 2021 at 7:57 am. Reason: More information added.