HMV 1356 - Tuning Glass - UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum

pgantley · 26th Feb 2020, 10:38 am

Hi All, Working on this radio restore and looks like a previous owner has attempted to draw the frequency details back on by hand in some sort of waxy material. The glass was really dirty so I had to try and clean it. Even though I was really careful, most detail has simply wiped away.
I was thinking of finding someone who has the same radio, asking them to take a really close up of the glass and then to see if I could find some sort of printer transfer so I could then print out then transfer onto the glass. Kind of like the stuff you put in water then slide onto a surface.

Any ideas or suggestions would be really welcome

Thanks.

cathoderay57 · 26th Feb 2020, 2:46 pm

Hi PG, hope you manage to get a decent scan of the dial. I had a look at Past Times Radio but it's not there. If you get a good hi-res scan (without keystone effect), there are a few hints in Post #2 of this thread https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/...9551concerning production of the transfers. Good luck and feel free to ask for more advice assuming you get that far. Cheers, Jerry

pgantley · 26th Feb 2020, 5:16 pm

Hi Jerry,
Thank you very much for the advice. Appreciate it.

Sadly, no image yet, I'll keep looking. I'm sure I'll find something eventually. I've had an idea of printing onto acetate then sliding that under the glass, just got to replicate the details.

It's going to be a long restore this one, it's in a right old state. By the looks of it, it's had a long hard life so I think I'm going to keep this one so I can take my time and do this one thoroughly.

Thanks again for the advice Jerry.

Paul.

Cobaltblue · 26th Feb 2020, 6:45 pm

Interesting set though I restored one in the 90's and was amazed to find this relatively small set has a push pull output stage.

I don't think I still have it. It was probably moved on in one of my big culls of the early noughties.

Cheers

Mike T

cathoderay57 · 27th Feb 2020, 8:54 am

Hi Paul, providing you could get acetate sheet thin enough for your printer to cope with, that idea might work. The water slide transfers are made to be compatible with ink-jet or laser printers (there are 2 types so you need the right one) and you can buy a couple of sheets cheaply on eBay or in craft shops. It's easy to re-size and flip the image in MS Word or other apps so that it appears in reverse as you will be viewing it from the other side of the glass once it is stuck on. If you use an inkjet printer you need to seal the print with acrylic lacquer so that the ink doesn't run prior to wetting for application. Cheers, Jerry

pgantley · 27th Feb 2020, 11:51 pm

Mike, I had no idea it has a push pull feature, Ill check this when i get home. Did you have the cream color or the brown ? mines the cream color, its a ****** to try & match.

Jerry, I've found a picture online I think I can use, its a pretty close up clear shot of the details on the glass. Ill go ahead and try the transfer onto acetate idea, I've got a fancy laser printer so Ill order some acetate from ebay. Ill let you know how it goes.

Cheers for the advice

Paul.

26th Feb 2020, 10:38 am	#1
pgantley Diode Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: Liverpool, Merseyside, UK. Posts: 3	HMV 1356 - Tuning Glass Hi All, Working on this radio restore and looks like a previous owner has attempted to draw the frequency details back on by hand in some sort of waxy material. The glass was really dirty so I had to try and clean it. Even though I was really careful, most detail has simply wiped away. I was thinking of finding someone who has the same radio, asking them to take a really close up of the glass and then to see if I could find some sort of printer transfer so I could then print out then transfer onto the glass. Kind of like the stuff you put in water then slide onto a surface. Any ideas or suggestions would be really welcome Thanks. Attached Thumbnails

26th Feb 2020, 5:16 pm	#3
pgantley Diode Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: Liverpool, Merseyside, UK. Posts: 3	Re: HMV 1356 - Tuning Glass Hi Jerry, Thank you very much for the advice. Appreciate it. Sadly, no image yet, I'll keep looking. I'm sure I'll find something eventually. I've had an idea of printing onto acetate then sliding that under the glass, just got to replicate the details. It's going to be a long restore this one, it's in a right old state. By the looks of it, it's had a long hard life so I think I'm going to keep this one so I can take my time and do this one thoroughly. Thanks again for the advice Jerry. Paul.

26th Feb 2020, 6:45 pm	#4
Cobaltblue Moderator Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Exeter, Devon and Poole, Dorset UK. Posts: 6,857	Re: HMV 1356 - Tuning Glass Interesting set though I restored one in the 90's and was amazed to find this relatively small set has a push pull output stage. I don't think I still have it. It was probably moved on in one of my big culls of the early noughties. Cheers Mike T __________________ Invisible airwaves crackle with life or at least they used to Mike T BVWS member. www.cossor.co.uk

27th Feb 2020, 8:54 am	#5
cathoderay57 Nonode Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Bristol, UK. Posts: 2,382	Re: HMV 1356 - Tuning Glass Hi Paul, providing you could get acetate sheet thin enough for your printer to cope with, that idea might work. The water slide transfers are made to be compatible with ink-jet or laser printers (there are 2 types so you need the right one) and you can buy a couple of sheets cheaply on eBay or in craft shops. It's easy to re-size and flip the image in MS Word or other apps so that it appears in reverse as you will be viewing it from the other side of the glass once it is stuck on. If you use an inkjet printer you need to seal the print with acrylic lacquer so that the ink doesn't run prior to wetting for application. Cheers, Jerry

27th Feb 2020, 11:51 pm	#6
pgantley Diode Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: Liverpool, Merseyside, UK. Posts: 3	Re: HMV 1356 - Tuning Glass Mike, I had no idea it has a push pull feature, Ill check this when i get home. Did you have the cream color or the brown ? mines the cream color, its a ****** to try & match. Jerry, I've found a picture online I think I can use, its a pretty close up clear shot of the details on the glass. Ill go ahead and try the transfer onto acetate idea, I've got a fancy laser printer so Ill order some acetate from ebay. Ill let you know how it goes. Cheers for the advice Paul.

26th Feb 2020, 2:46 pm	#2
cathoderay57 Nonode Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Bristol, UK. Posts: 2,382	Re: HMV 1356 - Tuning Glass Hi PG, hope you manage to get a decent scan of the dial. I had a look at Past Times Radio but it's not there. If you get a good hi-res scan (without keystone effect), there are a few hints in Post #2 of this thread https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/...9551concerning production of the transfers. Good luck and feel free to ask for more advice assuming you get that far. Cheers, Jerry Last edited by cathoderay57; 26th Feb 2020 at 2:59 pm.