Wall mounted turntable - UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum

John10b · 7th Sep 2018, 8:50 am

Once again not sure if this is correct place, so mods move if necessary, thanks.
Just read in my “Stuff” magazine, thanks to my grandson, a new record deck designed for wall mounting, not sure of the benefits but as my wife suggested suitable for a very small room or just “cool”!
Cheers
John

Michael Maurice · 7th Sep 2018, 8:54 am

Vertical turntables have been around since the 1980's IIRC Sharp and Mitsubishi made them.

Radio Wrangler · 7th Sep 2018, 9:14 am

Sounds like the perfect accompaniment to the current fashion for buying LPs to stick the sleeves up as wall decorations.

I think I saw one of the toshiba or was it sharp ones in about 1980.

David

M0FYA Andy · 7th Sep 2018, 9:18 am

It sounds rather silly to me!
Unless you live in a telephone kiosk, just put a shelf on the wall and stand a conventional turntable on that...…………….

Andy

John10b · 7th Sep 2018, 9:42 am

I agree Andy, but there you go,and they call it “sexy”!? It’s called a Pro-Ject VT-E and priced at £269.
Cheers
John

Herald1360 · 7th Sep 2018, 10:51 am

With that name and price figure, they're labouring the "sexy" somewhat already!

These days, though, telephone kiosk sized rooms are generously proportioned- look at that high ceiling.........

G8HQP Dave · 7th Sep 2018, 10:57 am

Good quality turntables should almost always be wall-mounted, as this greatly reduces acoustic coupling to the room. Just put up a suitable size sturdy shelf and place the turntable on it. As I once discovered, about the worst possible place to put a good turntable is on top of a 70's 'hi-fi rack'.

OscarFoxtrot · 7th Sep 2018, 12:36 pm

That's second-worst.

The worst is inside a 1960s radiogram with the speakers in the same cabinet.

John10b · 7th Sep 2018, 1:42 pm

How do they get the right weight for given cartridge, and how do they achieve correct tracking, must be some clever engineering?
Cheers
John

Lloyd 1985 · 7th Sep 2018, 1:42 pm

I’ve got one of Sony’s little PS-Q7 turntables, and that was mounted on the wall, since it was in an upstairs room with springy floors it made sense to put it somewhere solid.

I’m sure it was both Sharp and Mitsubishi that had vertical turntables, Sony also made a very small vertical one too PS-F9 I think it was.

Regards
Lloyd

Lloyd 1985 · 7th Sep 2018, 1:43 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by John10b

How do they get the right weight for given cartridge, and how do they achieve correct tracking, must be some clever engineering?
Cheers
John

Adjustable springs!

John10b · 7th Sep 2018, 1:49 pm

Wow that simple, thanks.
Cheers
John

Sideband · 7th Sep 2018, 1:51 pm

Didn't these things have a linear tracking 'arm' driven by a worm (similar to a CD player) and the arm and cartridge were on soft springs...something like that. I remember seeing a Sharp vertical player that was supposed to be the 'bees knees'. It must use something similar to the in-car record players that had a brief popularity. The Bush 'Discassette' comes to mind.

Richard_FM · 7th Sep 2018, 2:10 pm

IIRC Sharp made a large ghetto blaster with a vertical turntable, which could play both sides without flipping the disc.

Nuvistor · 7th Sep 2018, 2:33 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sideband

Didn't these things have a linear tracking 'arm' driven by a worm (similar to a CD player) and the arm and cartridge were on soft springs...something like that. I remember seeing a Sharp vertical player that was supposed to be the 'bees knees'. It must use something similar to the in-car record players that had a brief popularity. The Bush 'Discassette' comes to mind.

Link to photos of the Pro-Ject VT-E https://www.henleyaudio.co.uk/produc...s=1&BrandIds=2

There is a note at the bottom of that page to say the left handed version is not available in the UK, I don’t recall seeing any left handed turntables.

Julesomega · 7th Sep 2018, 2:39 pm

My walls shake too much when trains go by so I have the turntable on a desk, everything else on the walls, including front-ported speakers

M0FYA Andy · 7th Sep 2018, 2:39 pm

Basic engineering common sense says work with gravity and take advantage of it as opposed to having to fight it!

Nickthedentist · 7th Sep 2018, 2:41 pm

A Google image search suggests that the VT-E L is basically a normal VT-E with the mounting/supporting bits fitted so that it can be hung upside down.

Nickthedentist · 7th Sep 2018, 2:43 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Julesomega

My walls shake too much when trains go by so I have the turntable on a desk, everything else on the walls, including front-ported speakers

I have the same problems with buses, ever since our local bus company started running huge buses along our narrow residential road. It wasn't too bad to start with but as the road surface has deteriorated into a series of bumps, the vibration has become evident in every room in the house, and playing LPs on my Technics direct drive deck has become problematic.

McMurdo · 7th Sep 2018, 3:14 pm

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7th Sep 2018, 8:50 am	#1
John10b Nonode Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Aberaeron, Ceredigion, Wales, UK. Posts: 2,887	Wall mounted turntable Once again not sure if this is correct place, so mods move if necessary, thanks. Just read in my “Stuff” magazine, thanks to my grandson, a new record deck designed for wall mounting, not sure of the benefits but as my wife suggested suitable for a very small room or just “cool”! Cheers John

7th Sep 2018, 8:54 am	#2
Michael Maurice Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Wembley, Middlesex Posts: 7,225	Re: Wall mounted turntable Vertical turntables have been around since the 1980's IIRC Sharp and Mitsubishi made them. __________________ Forum Moderator http://www.michaelmauricerepairs.co.uk/

7th Sep 2018, 9:14 am	#3
Radio Wrangler Moderator Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Fife, Scotland, UK. Posts: 22,901	Re: Wall mounted turntable Sounds like the perfect accompaniment to the current fashion for buying LPs to stick the sleeves up as wall decorations. I think I saw one of the toshiba or was it sharp ones in about 1980. David __________________ Can't afford the volcanic island yet, but the plans for my monorail and the goons' uniforms are done

7th Sep 2018, 9:18 am	#4
M0FYA Andy Nonode Join Date: May 2007 Location: Preston, Lancashire, UK. Posts: 2,511	Re: Wall mounted turntable It sounds rather silly to me! Unless you live in a telephone kiosk, just put a shelf on the wall and stand a conventional turntable on that...……………. Andy

7th Sep 2018, 9:42 am	#5
John10b Nonode Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Aberaeron, Ceredigion, Wales, UK. Posts: 2,887	Re: Wall mounted turntable I agree Andy, but there you go,and they call it “sexy”!? It’s called a Pro-Ject VT-E and priced at £269. Cheers John

7th Sep 2018, 10:51 am	#6
Herald1360 Dekatron Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Leominster, Herefordshire, UK. Posts: 16,536	Re: Wall mounted turntable With that name and price figure, they're labouring the "sexy" somewhat already! These days, though, telephone kiosk sized rooms are generously proportioned- look at that high ceiling......... __________________ ....__________ ....\|____\|\|__\|__\_____ .=.\| _---\__\|__\|_---_\|. .........O..Chris....O

7th Sep 2018, 10:57 am	#7
G8HQP Dave Rest in Peace Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Solihull, West Midlands, UK. Posts: 4,872	Re: Wall mounted turntable Good quality turntables should almost always be wall-mounted, as this greatly reduces acoustic coupling to the room. Just put up a suitable size sturdy shelf and place the turntable on it. As I once discovered, about the worst possible place to put a good turntable is on top of a 70's 'hi-fi rack'.

7th Sep 2018, 12:36 pm	#8
OscarFoxtrot Heptode Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Edinburgh, UK. Posts: 805	Re: Wall mounted turntable That's second-worst. The worst is inside a 1960s radiogram with the speakers in the same cabinet.

7th Sep 2018, 1:42 pm	#9
John10b Nonode Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Aberaeron, Ceredigion, Wales, UK. Posts: 2,887	Re: Wall mounted turntable How do they get the right weight for given cartridge, and how do they achieve correct tracking, must be some clever engineering? Cheers John

7th Sep 2018, 1:42 pm	#10
Lloyd 1985 Nonode Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Coningsby, Lincolnshire, UK. Posts: 2,820	Re: Wall mounted turntable I’ve got one of Sony’s little PS-Q7 turntables, and that was mounted on the wall, since it was in an upstairs room with springy floors it made sense to put it somewhere solid. I’m sure it was both Sharp and Mitsubishi that had vertical turntables, Sony also made a very small vertical one too PS-F9 I think it was. Regards Lloyd

7th Sep 2018, 1:49 pm	#12
John10b Nonode Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Aberaeron, Ceredigion, Wales, UK. Posts: 2,887	Re: Wall mounted turntable Wow that simple, thanks. Cheers John

7th Sep 2018, 1:51 pm	#13
Sideband Dekatron Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Croydon, Surrey, UK. Posts: 7,578	Re: Wall mounted turntable Didn't these things have a linear tracking 'arm' driven by a worm (similar to a CD player) and the arm and cartridge were on soft springs...something like that. I remember seeing a Sharp vertical player that was supposed to be the 'bees knees'. It must use something similar to the in-car record players that had a brief popularity. The Bush 'Discassette' comes to mind. __________________ There are lots of brilliant keyboard players and then there is Rick Wakeman.....

7th Sep 2018, 2:10 pm	#14
Richard_FM Nonode Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Stockport, Cheshire, UK. Posts: 2,004	Re: Wall mounted turntable IIRC Sharp made a large ghetto blaster with a vertical turntable, which could play both sides without flipping the disc. __________________ Hello IT: Have you Tried Turning It Off & On Again?

7th Sep 2018, 2:39 pm	#16
Julesomega Nonode Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Stockport, Greater Manchester, UK. Posts: 2,117	Re: Wall mounted turntable My walls shake too much when trains go by so I have the turntable on a desk, everything else on the walls, including front-ported speakers __________________ - Julian It's good here

7th Sep 2018, 2:39 pm	#17
M0FYA Andy Nonode Join Date: May 2007 Location: Preston, Lancashire, UK. Posts: 2,511	Re: Wall mounted turntable Basic engineering common sense says work with gravity and take advantage of it as opposed to having to fight it!

7th Sep 2018, 2:41 pm	#18
Nickthedentist Dekatron Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oxford, UK. Posts: 17,861	Re: Wall mounted turntable A Google image search suggests that the VT-E L is basically a normal VT-E with the mounting/supporting bits fitted so that it can be hung upside down.

7th Sep 2018, 3:14 pm	#20
McMurdo Dekatron Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Staffordshire Moorlands, UK. Posts: 5,273	Re: Wall mounted turntable https://vintage-radio.net/forum/show...29&postcount=1 __________________ Kevin