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23rd Mar 2020, 12:11 pm | #1 |
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Sterling Croydon synchronous electric clock
This clock has been in my round-tuit pile for a couple of years, and I have just got around to it.
The movement has a single centre-hole fixing that had completely corroded away, leaving part of the thread firmly stuck in the cast alloy front mounting plate. The three bolts securing this plate to the movement were also seized in place. Eventually these were extracted without damage after a prolonged soaking with penetrating fluid. After a fruitless search for a replacement fixing bush, I eventually hit on the idea of holding the movement in place with self-adhesive Velcro discs. This worked very well. The neat 240 volt 50Hz AC synchronous movement itself worked, but is non-self starting and had a tendency to stop at intervals. I discovered that the flywheel was rotating completely free on the rotor arbor, due to lack of tension on the loose coupling spring. That was tightened slightly and the fault was cured. Light lubrication was applied to the spindles and rotor bearings. Sterling clocks aren’t common. The following is from the on-line “Les Pook Miscellany”: ‘Two companies with Sterling in their name were making synchronous clocks ca 1937. One was Sterling Croydon Clocks, Croydon, Surrey, who used the trade mark ‘Sterling’. For more information... see POOK L P. British domestic synchronous clocks 1930-1980. The rise and fall of a technology. Springer, 2015.’ This would be a lovely book to own, but at well over £80 it’s hard to justify its purchase. I have also seen a reference in Grace’s Guide to Sterling Clock Co operating in 1947. I have also seen a very similar movement in another non-Sterling branded clock. I have no idea whether Sterling manufactured their own movements or bought them in. It looks unique though, but more akin to a Ferranti than a Smiths motor. I think this clock dates from post-WWII as the coil is so compact. Phil
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28th Mar 2020, 10:59 am | #2 |
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Re: Sterling Croydon synchronous electric clock
Thank you to Forum member Stevenkw2t for the PM and subsequently sending me three PDFs full of helpful information on Sterling clocks.
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28th Mar 2020, 3:25 pm | #3 |
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Re: Sterling Croydon synchronous electric clock
It would be good if you could post the information on here for all to see.
As you said, Sterling electric clocks are not very commonly found. Consequently there is not much on the Web about them. Some years ago I bought a Sterling Electric clock at a car boot sale. It came in a square wooden case, almost exactly like this stock photo: https://www.alamy.com/stock-image-a-...165372345.html From its appearance, I guessed that it's from the 1930s. The dial just says "Sterling Electric - Made in England". There's no mention of Croydon at all. My clock worked after replacing the cloth-covered mains lead which had perished. Only minor irritation - the Set Hands knob was missing. The spindle can be turned with a pair of pliers to set the time, or simply wait until the clock shows the right time, then flick the starter. I came across the Les Pook page but it only gives a small amount of information. https://lespook.wordpress.com/synchr...ocks/sterling/ |
28th Mar 2020, 4:34 pm | #4 |
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Re: Sterling Croydon synchronous electric clock
There are probably copyright issues. I was sent the information privately on a ‘one-to-one’ basis. I would advise you to send a PM direct to Steven and ask if he’s able to send the info to you too.
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29th Mar 2020, 7:14 am | #5 | |
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Re: Sterling Croydon synchronous electric clock
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The copyright act in Australia has a provision which allows limited copying of copyright material for the purposes of 'study and research'. (Other jurisdictions may have something similar - it would be impossible to stop people sharing bits for their own private, non-commercial purposes). I think that sharing a few pages with a fellow scholar of electric clocks would fall under this provision. But posting the doc to a website might be seen as effectively publishing it. The publisher would not be happy - if they found out. So we should stay well clear of doing that. |
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29th Mar 2020, 10:38 am | #6 |
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Re: Sterling Croydon synchronous electric clock
Perhaps you could tell us the title of the book.
Thanks.
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30th Mar 2020, 12:50 am | #7 |
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Re: Sterling Croydon synchronous electric clock
It's the book Phill mentioned in the first post 'British domestic synchronous clocks 1930-1980. The rise and fall of a technology'. Les Pook has a website, The Les Pook Miscellany, which is an outlet for his various enthusiasms, including synchronous clocks. It is an excellent source of information but sometimes refers readers to the book.
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30th Mar 2020, 7:53 am | #8 |
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Re: Sterling Croydon synchronous electric clock
Steven has clarified the position very well.
In a few short years we have become used to being able to find most information online, quickly and free. In some sectors (clocks is one such) there are authors who are actively doing original work and research and publishing it, but on a paid-for basis in order to recover their costs, rather than for free. Many of these publications will only appeal to a tiny audience and will sell in small numbers, hence the high cost, and such books often command even higher prices second-hand. This specific book will have an even narrower appeal as it focuses on the British electric clock industry, which clearly excludes enthusiasts in the large US market. Whilst many 240 volt synchronous clock motors will actually run on 110 volt 60Hz supplies quite happily, they tend to run fast...
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