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Old 10th Nov 2018, 1:40 pm   #41
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Whatever. It will have be someone that the general public know of to win a popular vote. Unsung heroes in any field are more in the realms of enthusiasts like us.
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Old 10th Nov 2018, 4:03 pm   #42
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Tommy Flowers and R. V. Jones saved many extra years of war, I modify my vote to both of them.
 
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Indeed they are, perhaps it's about time some (very significant) history is more widely known?
 
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I've just been looking at the Wiki page for Joseph Priestly; it is a much longer document than I expected. I knew about much of his chemistry work, but there is mention there of his work on electricity, with the suggestion that both Faraday and Maxwell drew on it. Probably a man who has received less recognition than he deserved, though his birthplace of West Yorkshire has made an effort for him.

I think a big question here is the extent to which you give weighting to scientific work done during WWII. Unravelling cosmology is one thing, stopping Hitler is something else.

I almost wish this contest was not happening. It may well end up with a very contentious outcome.

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Some would find '...or a female' rather patronizing.
Just to respond to that, I think that you may be making a fair comment, but I think it is true that we live in an era where there is a dash to achieve "demographic quotas". It's possible (probable?) that positive discrimination is sometimes happening.

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Ok, Charles Hawtrey. J.
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"living" and "female" might make a change
https://royalsociety.org/people/joce...burnell-11066/
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But no-one's heard of her!

If female and living, Maggie Philbin. Computer Weekly's most influential woman in its UK IT 2016 award ...
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Who ever is chosen at the end of the day,man or woman it will not suit everybody that is for sure.
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I'd go for Tim Berners-Lee too or, if I wanted to be controversial........

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Who ever is chosen at the end of the day,man or woman it will not suit everybody that is for sure.
I won't be burning any in protest whoever is chosen!
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Rosalind Franklin. It has long infuriated me that she was overlooked when the work on DNA was recognised and her male colleagues took the plaudits.
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But no-one's heard of her!
The person most famous for NOT winning a Nobel prize. Giving it to Hewish seems to be generally considered a bit of a whoopsie. She gets invited to a lot of the things Nobel prizewinners get invited to - which may be considered evidence in support of the whoopsie viewpoint. She was involved in the International Science and Engineering Fairs when I was, and I can personally attest to the work she does in encouragement of youngsters into science.

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But no-one's heard of her!
That may be true outside the fields of astronomy, astrophysics and Quakers, but she is well-known within each of those fields and probably others.

edit: My whoopsie was responding before scrolling down to David's post above.
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It has been great to hear so many suggestions for this role and it does lead me to make this comment...
Doesn’t it make you feel proud that this small country has produced so many great engineers and scientists that we actually have trouble choosing just one?
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Proud indeed. So many instances that it isn't just a statistical blip. There has to be some underlying factor that promotes such performance.

However, it does throw into stark contrast the lack of comparable quality in industrialists and businessmen that the scientists' and engineers' discoveries and inventions cannot be exploited here. Many multinationals have had giant-killing performance from design studios and R&D labs in the UK. The missing factors seem to be top management and finance.

(Hi Dave, it's usually my glacial typing that means I put in a reply only to find half a dozen folk have already handled a matter.)
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Prof Dame Jocelyn Bell-Burnell (born in Northern Ireland) discovered pulsars, for those that don't know or haven't heard of her. Much like Rosalind Franklin, she didn't get the Nobel prize, but the men involved did....

I might also suggest Dorothy Hodgkin (British but born in Cairo, Egypt), who did get a Nobel Prize in Chemistry for developing protein crystallography.

It's a pity that Hedy Lamarr isn't British, because then we could possibly have someone notably beautiful on a banknote (early images of Queen Elizabeth II excepted).

I realised that most, if not all, of my scientist "heroes" were actually "heroines" a few years ago.

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Jocelyn Bell-Burnell and Rosalind Franklin are often compared, but I think Franklin was the one who was most badly cheated. Bell was very much used as a technician by her supervisor. But, did anyone merit a Nobel Prize for "discovering pulsars"; they were not very well hidden?

Franklin did highly skilled and original X-ray work only to have some her results shown, without her knowledge, by Wilkins, who was not her boss, to people in another lab. Absolute scandal really.

Dorothy Hodgkin was indeed a very great chemist, known mostly for her work on X-ray crystallography, and less so for the supervision of her student Margaret Hilda Roberts, who will very definitely not be the great scientist on the new bank note!

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There will be plenty of future banknotes, and for those who miss out on this one, there is always later...

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...and maybe one seen more frequently than the £50.
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