29th May 2020, 12:16 am | #61 |
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And they left a tell tale mark on the turntable.
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29th May 2020, 12:40 am | #63 |
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I have watched a youtube video and the guy used WD40? I used it to get the sticky tape residue off a Beatles pictures disc and it worked amazingly, washed after with washing up liquid and sponge to remove the WD40, its now hanging in the twins music room as a clock.
But as mentioned above I swear by Record Restorer with built in anti static. Gaz. |
29th May 2020, 5:49 am | #64 |
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Re: Best way to clean old vinyl records?
Just musing on comments in this thread, particularly those by Josh Ward, and reflecting on my own humble efforts at record cleaning in the past, carried out over the kitchen sink using a weak fairy liquid solution and 2" paintbrush with the bristles cut short and so a little stiff, with the record (label carefully protected) washed under copious amounts of running tap water (in those days I lived in a location with particularly soft water). Perhaps one secret to a successful outcome, regardless of the cleaning machine used, is the use of enough water to float the muck out of the grooves and off the record, rather than just moving it to a different location.
Would it be too heretical to suggest that the core of the success of cleaning machines such as that constructed by Agriff, and other similar styles of record cleaner, is due not solely to the use of suction to remove debris, but to the fact that the very design of the cleaning machine involves the use of a fair amount of water and thereby the grit is flushed away rather than just being moved about- the suction supply yet another level of cleaning/clean-up here. Bruce |
29th May 2020, 6:14 am | #65 |
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Not just a mark, at least two otherwise decent decks I have picked up at car boot sales have neat circles of lifted paint and rust where someone has licked the sucker and stuck a dust bug on the deck, neatly trapping a film of water under the sucker.
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29th May 2020, 10:51 am | #70 |
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Fair enough - my point was that moving coils in general are stiffer than comparable moving magnets - which is not to say that there aren't moving magnet groove mashers...
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29th May 2020, 12:39 pm | #71 | |
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I also use this method of stylus cleaning, but I can also recommend using a drop of IPA on a fine artist's brush and stroking from the shank of the stylus towards the tip. Do this carefully and do not allow the IPA to wick up the shank to the business end of the cartridge.
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I used to use a stylus brush with IPA but I once managed to detach the stylus from the cantilever of a rather expensive cartridge using this method. It could be that the IPA gradually dissolved the particular adhesive used on that cartridge ; or maybe I used too much force. I have yet to damage a cartridge using the gel method and it does do the job of removing fluff and dirt very efficiently.
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I have a neat little American thing - Discwasher maybe? - which has a pad made from myriad short bristles and folds into a little holder. It was sold with some fluid, which is long gone, but used dry it has done a good job of cleaning my tips for years.
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In response to the previous post, surely it's better to avoid the cost of buying new cartridges/styli unnecessarily?
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9th Nov 2020, 9:29 pm | #78 |
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There is probably no right answer, because the type of contaminant to be removed will also be a factor.
I discovered recently that there is a lubricant applied to the press used to stamp the vinyl disc, so that it is easily released from the stamp, and this can remain in the groove and be a cause of noise. The current fad for ‘180g’ vinyl is meaningless if you do not know how many pressings they make from the master. I have the figures somewhere, where classical used to be around a tenth of the worst pop offenders. I have a few new pressings, and they are incomparable to an old Deutsche Gramofon pressing on a very light vinyl. So a clean, low noise disc, is going to linked to multiple factors. |
9th Nov 2020, 11:40 pm | #79 |
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been cleaning records with washing up liquid and warm water for 50 years .yet to have one suffer any damage. I use a new paint brush with real hair not those plastic things .it gets into all the grooves then just run it under the cold tap [taking care to keep the label dry then its sandwiched between two clean cotton tea towels to dry .The results on 78s are really an eye opener
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9th Nov 2020, 11:45 pm | #80 |
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I heard most classical records were pressed on "virgin" vinyl, pop records were often made from unsold stock melted down & recycled.
Some collectors buy promo copies of records as they are normally the earliest pressings when the stampers are still in decent conditions.
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