11th Feb 2018, 1:45 pm | #121 | |
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That sounds a great idea, good old Philips. Back in their day they must have been a great company to work for with the wealth of knowledge from their engineers and scientists. Regards Symon. |
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11th Feb 2018, 7:30 pm | #122 |
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Robinshack has said pretty much what i was thinking about all this.
I am also conscious that the member involved in the recent 'incident' that has re-boosted this thread, is no longer a member and so presumably can't answer back; a good enough reason for gun back in holster maybe.. |
11th Feb 2018, 7:58 pm | #123 | |
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11th Feb 2018, 9:27 pm | #124 | |
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If I had no background and could not identify a component, let alone detect a duff one, what earthly use would my first 10 posts be in any thread?
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11th Feb 2018, 9:32 pm | #125 |
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The last three posts nail it for me.
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11th Feb 2018, 11:37 pm | #126 |
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Someone new appears on the forum, most usually with a question about a problem, what else can you do but treat them reasonably and contribute a reasonable and reasoned reply?
If the question poses safety implications, then it's sensible to elicit further information to gauge the questioner's level of experience/competence. After all, whose life is the one potentially at risk? And then, as they say, you see how it goes from there.... David
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12th Feb 2018, 12:07 am | #127 |
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What appeared on the public forum is a matter of record. There were other unseen comments, which will remain so. The matter is now closed.
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12th Feb 2018, 12:49 am | #128 |
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It does seem that when it comes to electrics a lot of common sensed folks minds seem to turn to jelly. I regularly post on a car forum and number of times I see the "change this/change that " approach to an electrical problem amazes me. Perhaps, I'm blessed with a decent engineering background, which applies to mechanical s and electrics,but I'm of the old school of "how does it work, what is not working ,and then look for a solution".
Simple example- car lamp not lit- no supply or faulty lamp. But what needs to be taught is the half it and see technique. It doesn't matter if the fault lies on a light circuit to the top yard of a farm/ a transatlantic circuit or a track on a PCB, for simple no voltage faults. More complicated faults might involve the introduction of capacitors in a circuit to check for open circuit ones, or voltage checks on the cathode of valves, or legs of transistors, but that needs a lot of theory. |
12th Feb 2018, 1:00 am | #129 | |
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I for one found that information extremely interesting as it filled a hitherto unknown gap in my knowledge. Until that question was posed, I would have assumed that a selenium rectifier could be replaced one for one with a more modern rectifier like a suitably rated silicon diode and no other components. I can remember selenium rectifiers in old car battery chargers and model train controllers, but I have never actually had to replace one in anything. Even if the OP of a given thread appears not to want to benefit from the information given, others eventually will, when they surf onto that thread in search of the same information at some point in the future. When I'm in a position to answer someone's query myself (in this and a few other forums I frequent) I often answer it in greater detail than might seem necessary for the OP's benefit, and that is because I am conscious that the OP is probably not the only person who will ever have their problem, and that other people - possibly with less knowledge than the OP of the thread - will eventually come across it in search of the same answers. So to me, David, time spent answering a question in great detail is never really wasted, even if it sometimes seems to have been wasted on the OP. It will eventually prove useful to someone and perhaps prevent the same question from being asked again two years down the line. Almost every thread in this forum is a little treasure chest full of valuable knowledge waiting to be found, even if it was not always appreciated by the person for whom it was originally intended. |
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12th Feb 2018, 10:11 am | #130 |
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I actually saw what "no longer a member" had changed his profile wording to just before the thread was shut down, not very nice and it was clearly aimed at everyone that uses this forum. No further comment from me.
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12th Feb 2018, 10:27 am | #131 | |
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These types of one-sided threads do nothing more than drive a wedge between the elite members and the slow learners such as myself and create bad feeling and even less respect. They ruin a good forum poppydog |
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12th Feb 2018, 10:53 am | #132 |
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No wedge driven, as far as I can see.
I don't think those sorts of posts do any damage other than to the poster. Those who need help seem to get it, and the givers of said help seem to feel that it was appreciated by the vast majority of readers. I've asked for help many times in areas I'm not familiar with, and I've been able to dispense a bit on familiar stuff. Things look OK on both sides of the fence. Inevitably there is a steady flow of people wanting to make a quick buck off forum member's generosity and there are those with negative social skills, but by and large the community is robust enough to shrug them off. Such people contain the seeds of their own destruction and inevitably bring far more misery into their own lives than they ever can bring to anyone else's. David
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12th Feb 2018, 1:08 pm | #133 | |
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That's a bit of a liberty, you'd expect the person would want to become a member to take part in the discussions for the benefit of everyone. Regards Symon. |
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12th Feb 2018, 3:05 pm | #134 | |
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12th Feb 2018, 3:49 pm | #135 |
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As this thread is heading for 7000 viewings, and I opened this can of worms, I would agree to it being closed. Its been fun, a laugh, but its getting boring.
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12th Feb 2018, 4:37 pm | #136 |
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I agree that this is a suitable point at which to close this thread, so will do so.
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