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Old 13th Aug 2010, 6:19 pm   #61
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A 7 amp fuse! Never seen one of those.
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Incidentally, whereas 13A are always brown and 3A red, I have 1A, 2A, 5A, 7A and 10A which are black. I also have a blue 2A and yellow 10As.
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Old 13th Aug 2010, 6:35 pm   #62
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Heres a pic of the British Tucker plug.Interestingly it has a slot with a hole leading to the earth pin area and another leading to the live.Why i wonder ? These are underneath the base plate .It also has the normal hole in the body near the earth pin
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This is a 'Sector' plug from around 1962, my parents bought a load of them when they had their first house.

As a child I remember most of them failed because when you unplugged them, the top would rip off in your hand leaving the body and pins in the socket. The brass insert in the top is quite shallow and the top itself is very thin, a damaged one leaves a small hole.

I have preserved this one for my vintage christmas lights and am aware of the danger.
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Old 13th Aug 2010, 9:24 pm   #64
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Interestingly it has a slot with a hole leading to the earth pin area and another leading to the live.
We used to have Dorman-Smith 13A plugs; the ones where the red fuse-carrier hinged down with the live pin. They used to have a small rectangular hole on the uppermost surface, with the earth connection directly accessible beneath.

I wondered if it might have been to allow earthing of a radio without leading a separate earth-wire out of the cable-clamped aperture (so not compromising the integrity of the cable-clamp)? I may have one of these plugs kicking about somewhere and will provide a pic if I find it (if no-one else does).
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Old 14th Aug 2010, 10:38 am   #65
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Just for information, all 13amp plugs & sockets past and present were/are BS1363
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Just to throw a spanner in the works, I've noticed that out of the two externally identical MK switched single sockets in my photo, the cream one is to BS1363, whereas the brown one is to BS2814...

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Old 14th Aug 2010, 11:10 am   #66
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?

BS2814 seems to be something to do with paint!

http://shop.bsigroup.com/en/SearchResults/?q=BS%202814

Maybe someone just painted it brown
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Old 14th Aug 2010, 7:06 pm   #67
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Yes! Lucien, I've got a stackable version of the Clix plug. Almost identical to the plain version from the "pin side" and a socket instead of the camel hump back.
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....We used to have Dorman-Smith 13A plugs; the ones where the red fuse-carrier hinged down with the live pin....... and will provide a pic if I find it (if no-one else does).

Hi,
Here are a few pictures of the Dorman and Smith "King Pin", I have an advert for one of these in a old trader magazine somewhere and may post that if I can find it.

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P.S. I have just noticed that the fuse in this plug is rated at 2 Amps and coloured Blue!
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Ahhh i have one of those plugs but in brown. i will have to dig it out
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I have a brown one too. What decade are they from ?
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Old 14th Aug 2010, 10:00 pm   #71
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What decade are they from ?
They were certainly around in 1955, as this advert shows (it's the cooker unit that was new, not the plug). I remember ours from the 1960s, but not sure when production stopped.

Most likely made at the DS factory at Workington!
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Old 24th Oct 2010, 9:03 pm   #72
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Hi,
Thought you'd be interested in this Duraplug 13amp fused connector I'd forgotten I had. I had a 5amp round pin version too and I think they made a 15amp one as well, but I've never seen one of those. It's marked "W. W. Haffenden Ltd, Sandwich, Kent."
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Those are splashproof 13A connectors and are still made
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Coo, I didn't realise they were still made. All three sizes? Haven't seen one for many years. When we started caravanning I wired it for mains and used one of these for the power inlet.
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They probably still make round pin ones too ,as they used unfused sockets in theatre lighting etc.
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Old 25th Oct 2010, 4:39 pm   #76
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Found something interesting the other day at a boot sale. A 3-1(or rather 1-3) bayonet adaptor, for running 3 bulbs from one light socket. Black ridged Bakelite,although not that old and alas unbranded.
Unfortunately I was not in a posiition to buy it, or take pics.
3 bayonet sockets in line like a duck's foot.

That DS "Kingpin" IS interesting. Shame they never caught on.
A good place for finding old plugs is boot sales. There is often a box full worth a rummage.
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A 3-1(or rather 1-3) bayonet adaptor, for running 3 bulbs from one light socket.
Pretty sure I've got one of those. I'll see if I can find it.
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Hi,
I remember having a three way bayonet lamp adapter as a kid (other kids asked their parent's for toys; I asked for plugs ) It came from Woolies and I think it was made by W&G, (Ward and Goldstone, Trafford Park, Manchester. If I remember correctly).
Yes, Duraplug rubber 15amp plugs, trailing sockets & adapters are very common in the theatrical world. I thought the one in my OP was obsolete, apparently not.
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I remember having a three way bayonet lamp adapter as a kid (other kids asked their parent's for toys; I asked for plugs
That sounds familiar My parents used to lift me up so I could see over the counter at Woolworths to choose electrical fittings. Wouldn't be surprised if my 3 way BC adaptor came from Woolies.
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The Austrailian version is now only available with an attached cable, this is to stop 'naughty' extension leads being made. Ones with a live plug on the end.
You mean a piggy-back/tap-on plug? Nope, still available on their own, e.g. PDL 940 although it looks like HPM have dropped their one. There's very little point, you can buy ready made extension leads for next to nothing, but a tapon plug is over NZ$10 retail.
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