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Old 14th Aug 2023, 9:45 pm   #3241
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Is there a lack of crazy, overpriced audiophool hardware (or software for that matter) to hunt down and mock at the moment?

Without legitimate targets, things have been getting too serious. We need to get this thread back on topic.

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OK! have we done Nordost Odin 2 speaker cables yet?

Good value at $29,999 a metre.

Excited? just read the review yourselves :

https://www.nordost.com/assets/image...pdf/127555.pdf
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Old 14th Aug 2023, 9:50 pm   #3242
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Where do these people come from...
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Old 14th Aug 2023, 9:55 pm   #3243
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There's an opening for McEnroe here.
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Old 14th Aug 2023, 10:07 pm   #3244
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Where do these people come from...
Three schools of thought on that:
Massachusetts,
Bedlam,
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Cloud cuckoo land.
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Old 15th Aug 2023, 12:08 pm   #3245
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At £460,000 I'm not sure if this is audiophoolery or sheer genius:

https://www.dereneville.de/src/doc/n...i_Tunes_EN.pdf

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Old 15th Aug 2023, 1:24 pm   #3246
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Glorious folly!
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Old 15th Aug 2023, 6:51 pm   #3247
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I think that's wonderful.
But it wasn't intended for sale, and doesn't deserve to be tarred with the same brush as most of the things in this thread.
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Old 15th Aug 2023, 6:58 pm   #3248
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At £460,000 I'm not sure if this is audiophoolery or sheer genius:

https://www.dereneville.de/src/doc/n...i_Tunes_EN.pdf

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To me it looks amazing. I wouldn't call it audiophoolery at all, although it may be one man's quest - at any lengths - to achieve ultimate performance from a record deck, arm and cartridge. The cost/value etc I cannot comment on. But it's a huge difference from (for example) cables or cable supports that cost the earth and contribute nothing. That's my opinion.
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Old 15th Aug 2023, 7:04 pm   #3249
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That looks amazing ! And well engineered.
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Old 15th Aug 2023, 8:02 pm   #3250
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You can pay that sort of money for a watch you have to wind up. Similar level of precision engineering. Appeals like the linear tracking arm, to those who have wealth at a level that feels no pain in forking out those sorts of sums.

In woodworking, there is a similar pinnacle in hand planes made by Karl Holtey https://www.holteyplanes.com/ . Handmade to order, no price list. But second hand ones go for between £3k and £10k. Things of beauty with double dovetailed sole and sides.

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Old 15th Aug 2023, 11:09 pm   #3251
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I have several 40's and 50's hand planes that look very similar to those... but less shiny!

No I'm not a woodworker. I inherited them.
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Old 16th Aug 2023, 9:21 am   #3252
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Probably Norris

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Old 16th Aug 2023, 9:39 am   #3253
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Just as the moderators were thinking that this thread was back on topic it's in danger of becoming a thread about woodworking tools.

Back on topic please.
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Old 16th Aug 2023, 11:02 am   #3254
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Or indeed parallel tracking arms.

But yes - lets get back to the daftness of the outer fringes of audio madness.

Like this https://www.futureshop.co.uk/entreq-...ell-ground-box , which does not connect to any external ground - it is basically some junk in a wooden box costing £16,500

"Entreq use different layers of metals mixed with minerals to create a para-, dia- and ferro-magnetic galvanic point that acts like a concentrated piece of Earth. By changing the metals, minerals, size, weight, case construction and differing conductors they can achieve several levels of performance and types of grounding boxes"

So there you have it.

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Old 16th Aug 2023, 11:35 am   #3255
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Or, they also say, "The ground should be Zero. A clean, solid fixed point. A fixed point where everything in the power net can refer to as Zero. But sadly, it is far from that in reality. Entreq normally say 220V 50Hz alternative 110 V 60Hz. But there are a lot more frequencies on the power network. These are caused by the way we connect zero and protective ground together in the main central/fuse boxes and all devices we connect to the power net. All together this causes a lot of unwanted magnetic fields that can distort signals."

Figure that one out? Technical gobbledygook, that's what I call it.
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Old 16th Aug 2023, 11:52 am   #3256
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Put up with the ads and listen to this guy spout about the Entreq grounding box being a box of rocks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUe857DRN34&t=542s

Or the guy who actually measured what the box does (actually increase the ground noise, it acts like an antenna) https://www.audiosciencereview.com/f...surements.476/

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Ha ha ha!

"By connecting a ground box to your car, you can eliminate the high-frequency pollution that floats around in the chassis caused by the generator and charging units. You will instantly notice a more distinct reaction and response from your car, as the high-frequency pollution slows down the microcomputers' reaction time. So, if you want to enhance your driving experience, consider trying Entreq's line of car audio products."

So fit a box of rocks, and your car performance will improve. And the microprocessor will run faster! I'd like to see the hard evidence to that claim.

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I'm not sure if it's been mentioned previously but there's a Facebook page called Audio Snake Oil Exposed - and it makes for good 'audiophoolery' reading.

https://www.facebook.com/Audiosnakeoil
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Old 16th Aug 2023, 12:28 pm   #3259
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Not audiophoolery as such, but a good, albeit short article about the high end hifi market in the US, and how the very rich buy stuff to impress their friends:

https://www.twice.com/product/lucrat...W4rIY5kGd3vJb4
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Old 16th Aug 2023, 3:03 pm   #3260
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So fit a box of rocks, and your car performance will improve. And the microprocessor will run faster! I'd like to see the hard evidence to that claim.
This reminds me of Peter Belt and his bits of foil and such. Yet he started out legit, making decent headphones and headphone power supplies. Then it all went very...esoteric. Did he decide that where there's there's brass?
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