Bonhams sale - 16 October 2007 - UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum

Gordon · 29th Sep 2007, 2:04 pm

There are lots of radio collectables in the forthcoming sale:

'Mechanical Music, Railwayana, Cameras, Police & Fire'.
16 October at Knowle

I don't understand why Radio/TV is not mentioned in the title.

The on-line catalogue is at:

http://www.bonhams.com/cgi-bin/publi...&iSaleNo=15198

Gordon.

ALANS ANITAS · 29th Sep 2007, 3:19 pm

The round Ekco's seem a bit undervalued.

I still can't afford one.

ALAN

Alex · 29th Sep 2007, 5:40 pm

Thanks for the link Gordon.
It will be interesting to see how the market in radios is going.
Nothing fantastic there (Except the early TV) but a good clean looking lot of vintage electronics .
Alex

Paul_RK · 29th Sep 2007, 6:48 pm

A few spectacularly low estimates there, but probably no cause to get excited as whoever put the catalogue together doesn't exactly have his finger on the pulse of the vintage radio world. I rest my case on a lot containing an Amplion Radiolux loudspeaker and a "similar walnut example" from about 70 years later http://www.bonhams.com/cgi-bin/publi...&iSaleNo=15198

Paul

Mikey405 · 30th Sep 2007, 9:26 pm

Wow. A Baird Televisor, and only 4 streets away from my house... 7000 quid though. Hmmm.

newlite4 · 1st Oct 2007, 11:35 am

Look at the little red "Fada" bullet radio in lot 39. I am sure that this is one of Gerrys repros - if it was genuine then it would be worth around £1500

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Neil

Alvin · 1st Oct 2007, 11:51 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by newlite4

Look at the little red "Fada" bullet radio in lot 39. I am sure that this is one of Gerrys repros

I guess this in the catalogue description "a Fada red bakelite radio, later fitments" gives the game away!

Alvin

kalee99 · 2nd Oct 2007, 10:58 am

Some nice looking sets and the cabinets all look very nicely finished off to the same standard; Has someone gone "silent key"

as they all seem to look like they may be all from the same place?

Gordon · 2nd Oct 2007, 8:54 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by kalee99

Has someone gone "silent key"

as they all seem to look like they may be all from the same place?

In the hardcopy of the catalogue it states:
'Radio & Related Items - The private collection of Mr Donald Bishop.
The collection formed over 25 years.'

I don't know if it's silent key or not.

Gordon.

(Mine's the Marconiphone V2 - wish me luck!)

chipp1968 · 4th Oct 2007, 6:06 pm

A nice selection of Radios and stuff . sometimes they put lower estimates on stuff deliberately to help interest in bidding I believe , though not on the televisor I see

JoshWard · 6th Oct 2007, 6:13 pm

some lovely McMichaels there!

kalee99 · 6th Oct 2007, 9:59 pm

I think I will be going to the sale. Anyone else going?
Paul.

kalee99 · 16th Oct 2007, 7:42 pm

Hi All,
Just got back from the sale. lots of good sets went cheap! It was a buyers market. I got the sets I wanted. However some of the very rare sets had been withdrawn for unexplained reasons. The Baird televisor went for £7000

Best wishes all,
Paul.

yesnaby · 16th Oct 2007, 9:34 pm

Hello,

I went too. To me the cosmetic quality on many of the radio items (apart from the round Ekco's) was not too hot. Also, some gentleman (probably a forum member!) outbid me on the only lot I was after. Still worth going though. Staff there very friendly. I think there's another similar one in approx. 6 months.

Michael

Dave Moll · 16th Oct 2007, 9:49 pm

The online catalogue (as referenced in Gordon's original post) now shows the prices of the items which sold.

Rejectostat · 17th Oct 2007, 10:32 am

Lot 57 looks to have been one of the best bargains of the day. Seven mostly 1930s radios for £90 plus purchase premium/tax. It wasn't described in the online listing, but that looks like the huge 10 valve push/pull HMV650 in amongst those radios, easily worth £90 alone. I've never seen that Victory branded radio before either. Wonder if they are going to a permanent home with a collector (Forum member?) or this auction was just a stop off on the way to eBay.

kalee99 · 17th Oct 2007, 4:49 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by yesnaby

Hello,

I went too. To me the cosmetic quality on many of the radio items (apart from the round Ekco's) was not too hot. Also, some gentleman (probably a forum member!) outbid me on the only lot I was after. Still worth going though. Staff there very friendly. I think there's another similar one in approx. 6 months.

Michael

I think that would have been me

if you wanted the "Invicta Monomatic set?
Having got it home (all the way to darkest Northumberland), It is a bit of a "patch up job". It has had all the valve holders changed for Octal's and the IF has been mucked about with! I am still happy with it though and I will see how it go's with the Octal's in it. If I am not happy then I will change it back to as per the drawing.
I agree that a lot of the sets were in a tatty state; But they went for reasonable prices.
Paul.

yesnaby · 17th Oct 2007, 8:02 pm

Paul,

Actually you were not guilty!

It was the Kenwood R-5000 communications receiver that I failed to win. Not sure that I really wanted it, but the estimate was very low. Unfortunately there were five bids already on the book when I got there and the said other gentleman was persistent in making further bids, so I decided to opt out.

I wonder what will happen to the Baird Televisor? That was in a rough state for 7K!

Michael

kalee99 · 17th Oct 2007, 9:31 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by yesnaby

Paul,

Actually you were not guilty!

It was the Kenwood R-5000 communications receiver that I failed to win. Not sure that I really wanted it, but the estimate was very low. Unfortunately there were five bids already on the book when I got there and the said other gentleman was persistent in making further bids, so I decided to opt out.

I wonder what will happen to the Baird Televisor? That was in a rough state for 7K!

Michael

Hi,
Yes it was a bit rough! I was given one by an old Gent when I was young (about ten years old) as I had managed to fix his wireless for him. As I remember it was in much better condition than the one at the auction. Sadly I never got to collect it as when My Father found out he said "No obsolete junk in this house and you cannot get a picture on them any more"

If I had managed to get it home I guess I would be "sitting pritty", now. I expect when the old gent died his family sent it to the tip where it would have been crushed thereby pushing up the price we saw yesterday

Paul.

29th Sep 2007, 2:04 pm	#1
Gordon Pentode Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Bournemouth, Dorset, UK. Posts: 131	Bonhams sale - 16 October 2007 There are lots of radio collectables in the forthcoming sale: 'Mechanical Music, Railwayana, Cameras, Police & Fire'. 16 October at Knowle I don't understand why Radio/TV is not mentioned in the title. The on-line catalogue is at: http://www.bonhams.com/cgi-bin/publi...&iSaleNo=15198 Gordon.

29th Sep 2007, 3:19 pm	#2
ALANS ANITAS Rest in Peace Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: North West Northamptonshire, UK. Posts: 346	Re: Bonhams sale - 16 October 2007 The round Ekco's seem a bit undervalued. I still can't afford one. ALAN

29th Sep 2007, 5:40 pm	#3
Alex Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 57	Re: Bonhams sale - 16 October 2007 Thanks for the link Gordon. It will be interesting to see how the market in radios is going. Nothing fantastic there (Except the early TV) but a good clean looking lot of vintage electronics . Alex

29th Sep 2007, 6:48 pm	#4
Paul_RK Dekatron Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Fakenham, Norfolk, UK. Posts: 4,255	Re: Bonhams sale - 16 October 2007 A few spectacularly low estimates there, but probably no cause to get excited as whoever put the catalogue together doesn't exactly have his finger on the pulse of the vintage radio world. I rest my case on a lot containing an Amplion Radiolux loudspeaker and a "similar walnut example" from about 70 years later http://www.bonhams.com/cgi-bin/publi...&iSaleNo=15198 Paul

30th Sep 2007, 9:26 pm	#5
Mikey405 Octode Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Solihull, West Midlands and Beaford, Devon Posts: 1,626	Re: Bonhams sale - 16 October 2007 Wow. A Baird Televisor, and only 4 streets away from my house... 7000 quid though. Hmmm. __________________ G7TRF

1st Oct 2007, 11:35 am	#6
newlite4 Octode Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Bath, Somerset, UK. Posts: 1,805	Re: Bonhams sale - 16 October 2007 Look at the little red "Fada" bullet radio in lot 39. I am sure that this is one of Gerrys repros - if it was genuine then it would be worth around £1500 . Neil __________________ preserving the recent past, for the distant future.

2nd Oct 2007, 10:58 am	#8
kalee99 Rest in Peace Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne, Tyneside, UK. Posts: 420	Re: Bonhams sale - 16 October 2007 Some nice looking sets and the cabinets all look very nicely finished off to the same standard; Has someone gone "silent key" as they all seem to look like they may be all from the same place?

4th Oct 2007, 6:06 pm	#10
chipp1968 Rest in Peace Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Somerset, UK. Posts: 2,356	Re: Bonhams sale - 16 October 2007 A nice selection of Radios and stuff . sometimes they put lower estimates on stuff deliberately to help interest in bidding I believe , though not on the televisor I see

6th Oct 2007, 6:13 pm	#11
JoshWard Octode Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Near Stowmarket, Suffolk, UK. Posts: 1,962	Re: Bonhams sale - 16 October 2007 some lovely McMichaels there!

6th Oct 2007, 9:59 pm	#12
kalee99 Rest in Peace Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne, Tyneside, UK. Posts: 420	Re: Bonhams sale - 16 October 2007 I think I will be going to the sale. Anyone else going? Paul.

16th Oct 2007, 7:42 pm	#13
kalee99 Rest in Peace Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne, Tyneside, UK. Posts: 420	Re: Bonhams sale - 16 October 2007 Hi All, Just got back from the sale. lots of good sets went cheap! It was a buyers market. I got the sets I wanted. However some of the very rare sets had been withdrawn for unexplained reasons. The Baird televisor went for £7000 Best wishes all, Paul.

16th Oct 2007, 9:34 pm	#14
yesnaby Octode Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Newport, Gwent, UK. Posts: 1,623	Re: Bonhams sale - 16 October 2007 Hello, I went too. To me the cosmetic quality on many of the radio items (apart from the round Ekco's) was not too hot. Also, some gentleman (probably a forum member!) outbid me on the only lot I was after. Still worth going though. Staff there very friendly. I think there's another similar one in approx. 6 months. Michael

16th Oct 2007, 9:49 pm	#15
Dave Moll Dekatron Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: West Cumbria (CA13), UK Posts: 6,127	Re: Bonhams sale - 16 October 2007 The online catalogue (as referenced in Gordon's original post) now shows the prices of the items which sold. __________________ Mending is better than Ending (cf Brave New World by Aldous Huxley)

17th Oct 2007, 10:32 am	#16
Rejectostat Hexode Join Date: May 2003 Location: Hertfordshire, UK. Posts: 308	Re: Bonhams sale - 16 October 2007 Lot 57 looks to have been one of the best bargains of the day. Seven mostly 1930s radios for £90 plus purchase premium/tax. It wasn't described in the online listing, but that looks like the huge 10 valve push/pull HMV650 in amongst those radios, easily worth £90 alone. I've never seen that Victory branded radio before either. Wonder if they are going to a permanent home with a collector (Forum member?) or this auction was just a stop off on the way to eBay.

17th Oct 2007, 8:02 pm	#18
yesnaby Octode Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Newport, Gwent, UK. Posts: 1,623	Re: Bonhams sale - 16 October 2007 Paul, Actually you were not guilty! It was the Kenwood R-5000 communications receiver that I failed to win. Not sure that I really wanted it, but the estimate was very low. Unfortunately there were five bids already on the book when I got there and the said other gentleman was persistent in making further bids, so I decided to opt out. I wonder what will happen to the Baird Televisor? That was in a rough state for 7K! Michael