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Old 27th Mar 2019, 6:58 pm   #101
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Just wondering, has anyone ever used or owned a CP (Consolidated Pneumatic) Electric drill ? Years ago, I repaired & re-leaded a big old single phase one. It was owned by a farmer & was filthy, having lived in an old open-ended shed for years. My, what a superbly built drill. Better than a Wolf of a similar size, I reckon. By an amazing coincidence, my eldest lad, whilst training as a diver at Fort William a few years back, was taught to use one of their air powered drills. Even more of a coincidence - their main UK plant was based at Fraserburgh - a dozen miles away from here. They were once one of the biggest employers in the north of Scotland, with a workforce of thousands. Had their own power station & company housing street.

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Old 28th Apr 2019, 6:05 pm   #102
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One of the things I liked about the old wolf and Stanley metal bodied drills was the fact they could be dropped even onto concrete and would usually bounce whereas the new plastic in the early day often fractured easily. I have an old Stanley homelite drill that uses a sort of predecessor of the Jacobs chuck - there is a knurled ring and the body of the check behind it has two holes which an eighth inch twist drill fits neatly for tightening it. My main wail about Jacobs chucks is they can come undone at particularly inconvenient moments - such as recently 2m up a ladder drilling through a six inch wooden wall. To have the bit stuck then and the drill come off is really difficult.
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Old 28th Apr 2019, 6:17 pm   #103
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My late father had - in the 1960s - a UK-made "Desoutter" diecast-cased electric drill that he swore was infinitely better than the Stanley/B&D/Wolf generic consumer electric-drills then available.

He'd had close working contacts with the aviation-industry in the post-WWII decade and Desoutter tools - both electric- and compressed-air-powered - were what Supermarine, Blackburn, De Havilland, Bristol, Martin-Baker, English Electric, Gloster, Vickers, Handley-Page, Avro, Fairey, Saunders-Roe etc were all using on their production-lines for drilling, sanding, polishing, rivetting.

Desoutter still exist: https://www.desouttertools.com/about-desoutter/history
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Old 1st May 2019, 3:10 pm   #104
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I worked in a sheet metal factory one summer in the early 70's and they still used the old Desoutter drills - even still had spares for them.
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Old 1st May 2019, 3:46 pm   #105
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I am surprised that Desoutter were described as 'old' in the 70s as at that time someone I worked for was envious of the drill I carried in my toolbox (see my earlier post #11) and thought he would outdo me by buying a brand new Desoutter drill. He never admitted how disappointed he was as although the Desoutter was well engineered it was nowhere near powerful, ergonomic, or just plain usable as the my Arcoy was. The main thing I remember about it was that I thought one would need a deformed hand to operate the trigger!

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Old 26th May 2019, 4:47 pm   #106
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I rescued a rusty "Oldak" high-speed drill from a skip a few years ago.

It was missing the three-speed motor pulley and the drive belt (turned out to be a "Y" section , 6.2mm wide). Also the motor would only start with some manual encouragement. https://www.vintage-radio.net/images/smilies/sad.gif

I made a new pulley from Tufnol, and by happenchance had an identical NiB Jacobs 1/4" MT chuck in my collection of useful stuff.



The drill is unusual in that the quill is fixed, and the small cast-iron table moves up and down, operated by a lever and with spring return. For some reason this arrangement gives you a greater sense of control when drilling very small holes.


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Old 26th May 2019, 5:26 pm   #107
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Those little Oldaks are very good drills for drilling PCBs and other miniature work.

The better control is because the rotating shaft doesn't have to have a sliding quill which needs a degree of clearance (== slop) to be able to work. We had one in the lab at HP, all complete and as new.

Sometimes drills just don't cut it, and for a bit of antenna work you need to break out the oxy-propanene cutter...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpXL_QaK17E

Yes, this guy is cutting away at the thing he's standing on....

Mind you his helper is risking his life smoking that cigarette. Radio work is not without its risks.

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Old 26th May 2019, 6:06 pm   #108
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I am wondering what "propanene" might be... I can understand propane, propene and acetylene, but it has got me guessing. The "..ane" ending is used for fully saturated hydrocarbons (no double bonds) and the "..ene" ending for unsaturated hydrocarbons with one or more double-bonds. Acetylene is a bit of an old-fashioned name and it is better referred to as ethyne, the ..yne ending signifying triple bond(s).

That clip made me feel quite wobbly and I used to do rock-climbing in my younger days!

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Old 26th May 2019, 9:35 pm   #109
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Ah, just my lousy typing. Propane. It's a lot safer than acetylene and doesn't carry the weight disadvantage of having to be stored in solution. Fine for cutting and brazing, You only really need the temperature advantage of acetylene for welding steel. I was still shaky after watching that video. I wonder if they had very long pipes and had the bottles at the base of the mast on the roof of the skyscraper or whether they'd had to cart small ones up to the top?

I thought this radio career lark was supposed to be nice, safe and no heavy lifting.

In the other video that goes with it, it's interesting to see serpentine elements spaced over reflector panels. But it all seems to have been up there beyond the old method of drilling out rusty bolts. But modern cordless drills must be great for these guys.

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Old 27th May 2019, 8:46 am   #110
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Old 27th May 2019, 9:40 am   #111
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Me too. I sent the video to my friend who's a rope-access man (interestingly, not a climber - years ago he needed a job, his brother got him into it, and he found he had a head for it) - and he said he wouldn't really fancy it!
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Old 27th May 2019, 1:53 pm   #112
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The video was indeed compulsive viewing. I was about to go to bed when I read the post, but had to see it through, as well as several of the others linked to it!
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I was still shaky after watching that video.
Me too. I sent the video to my friend who's a rope-access man (interestingly, not a climber - years ago he needed a job, his brother got him into it, and he found he had a head for it) - and he said he wouldn't really fancy it!
I used to do scaffolding in my youth up to about 25 stories - what I found is I was nervous up to about 5 then it became almost so unreal you lost fear of it and got on with the job. However I did have a decent platform around me unlike those guys. My moment of truth came one day when I was 3 stories up, the scaffold had not been tied to the building and it being New Zealand - we had a minor earthquake. Nothing like being 20 feet up and swaying merrily from side to side to make you find alternative employment!!!
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Old 2nd Sep 2019, 7:48 am   #114
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Picked up this wolf type BW2 at Sundays boot for a couple of quid needs a new power lead but nice to add to my colection
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Old 3rd Sep 2019, 10:08 am   #115
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A quick stripdown, cleanout and fresh grease would be a good idea if you plan to give it any stick...... you can check the brushes whilst you're at it.

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