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Old 16th Sep 2018, 12:54 pm   #81
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Today's find - a Bridges 'Neonic' 1/4 inch. Good working order, 3 at croft car boot.
I wonder what the relationship was between Bridges and Stanley? I see some drills are labelled 'Stanley Bridges'. Not this one.
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Old 16th Sep 2018, 1:30 pm   #82
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Stanley took over S N Bridges in 1961 and sometime later changed the Bridges branding to Stanley Bridges
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Old 16th Oct 2018, 4:04 pm   #83
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I remember my father acquiring an electric drill in about 1955 made by a company called "Bridges" It had a cast aluminium body and lasted for years. I have still got the 6" rubber disc attachment for holding abrasive discs. It had the "Tower Bridge" logo moulded into it.
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Old 16th Oct 2018, 10:31 pm   #84
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"Time flies like an arrow, fruit flys like a banana"

Yes, but the plural of fly is also flies same as the present tense of the verb "to fly"

Ms Truss would be disappointed!
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Old 16th Oct 2018, 11:56 pm   #85
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I recall being taken by my Dad into his works on a Sunday (in the days when you had to work probably 6 days a week) as we drove into his section we passed a man working on his rusty Hillman sanding some filler, he was outside with plenty of puddles about him with his metal case drill. It was sometime later I heard a terrific scream and then heard the bustle of an ambulance arriving, but the man was dead.

When we went home I cut the lead off my Dad's old Wolf metal case drill and chucked it in the bin. Plenty of youngsters had seen the PIF film about the man being electrocuted with the drill, as it was usually on in the mornings or afternoons but a lot of adults were still not really aware of it.

Presumably the cable on the man's drill had been connected to a non standard (plenty about in those days) 13 amp socket where he was working and perhaps he omitted the earth who knows -he didn't live to tell the tale. I obviously had some explaining to do when Dad went to use his drill again, but persuaded him to get one of those new fangled plastic things.
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Old 17th Oct 2018, 2:01 am   #86
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The drill in the safety film that I remember had the wires stuffed into a 13 amp socket without a plug.
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Old 17th Oct 2018, 5:32 pm   #87
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I think the next upgrade for my metal cased drills will be a combined RCD/13A plug, hard wired to the end of the cable. Screwfix have them. I find i cannae concentrate on drilling properly unless i have total confidence in the drill.

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Old 21st Oct 2018, 8:36 am   #88
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Last week I acquired a Bosch drill of unknown vintage. I could find no reference to it on the net apart from something that looked similar in a story about a Polish chap who had used one for 70 years after buying it from a displaced German family at the end of WWII. He had donated it recently to the Bosch museum. Then I spotted the drill thread on here, never having seen it before. The first post from Greenstar showed the same drill!

Mine does not have a chuck but an extension 'nose' that has a bladed end with two small pins or knobs. The end rotates freely but when depressed against a surface the blade engages and oscillates rapidly about 45 degrees either way. I have no idea as to its purpose, and have attached pics of the tool.

I also have a Wolf Sapphire pistol drill that I think was given to me by my father in 1972. He didn't sell them but gave them as Xmas gifts to his plumbing customers in Lincolnshire. It has the original brushes and is in regular use, even used at times to start recalcitrant outboard motors. I have since bought a couple of Sapphire drills with hammer gearboxes from yard sales. They are indestructible.

I notice with dismay that the brand and logo has appeared recently on some far Eastern junk, although whether this is an illegal operation I couldn't say.

The Wolf 'Standard Duty' drills are real wrist snappers. I have a couple.

-Fixitnow: I found a Desouter drill like yours ages ago. I don't use it but couldn't bear to throw it out. The brush caps were missing and they were impossible to source so I made a pair from nylon.

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Old 21st Oct 2018, 5:26 pm   #89
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That sounds like a valve-lapper.

Not our sort of valves, but poppet valves in the cylinder head of an engine. Some such valves came with two pre-drilled holes to suit the pins on the business end of a motorised lapper.

Smear on a dab of valve grinding paste onto the sealing face and insert the tool into the two holes and get going. Keep rotating the tool so lapping doesn't move back and forwards repetitively....

80 Watts is about right, it doesn't need a lot of power.

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Old 22nd Oct 2018, 4:22 am   #90
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I certainly would not have thought of that. I will research further with new search terms.
I have never come across this technique, or valves with holes for a tool, but it seems to be feasible. Initially I thought that I would not like to use such a tool on my British motorcycle cylinder heads in case the tool jumped out of the holes, but I suppose that most engine heads were cast iron in the period when this tool was made. The story of the Polish engineer suggests his similar looking drill could be pre-WWII.
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Old 22nd Oct 2018, 4:30 am   #91
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There we go: "vintage valve lapper" on Google, first hit gave me this picture of an essentially identical tool except the operator provides the 80W.
Many thanks, Radio Wrangler. A polymath indeed (or maybe an Engine Wrangler in your spare time..!)
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Old 22nd Oct 2018, 11:09 am   #92
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Yes but yours is a much more fancy electric valve lapper.
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Old 23rd Oct 2018, 2:16 pm   #93
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It seems really fierce actually, so I would be a bit frightened to use it in anger.
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Old 24th Oct 2018, 9:42 am   #94
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If it is a valve-lapper, it will most likely turn further one way than the other.
My Tecalemit example turns three 'clicks' forward and two back, to ensure that the valve rotates as well as oscillates.
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Old 25th Oct 2018, 5:57 pm   #95
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Having followed this thread for a while I couldn't resist buying the drill pictured below despite the fact that I really don't need another drill!

It's decent example of a little used sixties Stanley Bridges two speed drill complete with original chuck key I think.

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Old 26th Mar 2019, 4:58 pm   #96
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Ahh, there are some lovely drills here. I love the Stanley, Alan, it's nice to see one looking so new. And the Bosch valve lapper. That EW model number suggests a similarity to the drill in post 1.
My first trip to a car boot sale this year yielded two bigger Wolf's. I like the smaller hand drills most, but now I am getting into drills I am appreciating the bigger ones, and had decided to look out for one.
Here is a Wolf 1/2 inch WD34cA, 550rpm, and the 3/8 NW 3cE, 750 rpm. Both worked straight off, (I will be more careful to check all the wiring before trying these things out) but I have fitted serviceable cables and cable grips. I used the smaller rubber hose from a washing machine, just the right size for the grips. The half inch will need a thorough clean up. 3 each. The chap selling told me they had come from a neighbour's, and he had weighed in a heap of them for scrap aluminium.
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Old 26th Mar 2019, 5:42 pm   #97
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I've never used an old metal drill since! Take care, vintage drill fans...
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Old 26th Mar 2019, 8:40 pm   #98
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It is fair to point out that any 240v appliance can be lethal! used in the wrong way. I think I hardy need to say this to a group of people enthusiastic about old tech. Make sure the case is earthed, use an rcb, don't stand in a puddle, etc. A bad experience, Kevin, can of course lead to aversion (I ate a pumpkin part of which was mouldy and spent the night throwing up, and have since been put off the taste of pumpkin ... but avoiding pumpkin is not the issue). Many metal drills were used safely and heavily for many years and the build quailty is outstanding. There you go. Just use your wits.
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Old 27th Mar 2019, 2:43 pm   #99
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Here are those two Wolf's cleaned up a little and looking happier. I also found a Youtube video of a chap with the NW3cE 3/8", who had it professionally serviced and still feels he has a bargain. He expresses himself pretty clearly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bifWv88p0QA&t=94s

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Old 27th Mar 2019, 5:37 pm   #100
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Having followed this thread for a while I couldn't resist buying the drill pictured below despite the fact that I really don't need another drill!

It's decent example of a little used sixties Stanley Bridges two speed drill complete with original chuck key I think.

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I like the looks of that chuck key! At least, you can get a better grip on it the tighten the drill properly.
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