UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Powered By Google Custom Search Vintage Radio and TV Service Data

Go Back   UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum > Specific Vintage Equipment > Vintage Radio (domestic)

Notices

Vintage Radio (domestic) Domestic vintage radio (wireless) receivers only.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 26th Aug 2014, 12:33 am   #181
electrogram
Heptode
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Hereford, UK.
Posts: 719
Default Re: R4 Longwave sibilance again.

The only time in the last 15 years that we have had the audio quality that we should have was for a few weeks in Sept/Oct last year, there have been various alterations and messings about before and since. As long as R4 LW is in operation why can't we have a decent service ?
electrogram is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 26th Aug 2014, 8:53 am   #182
threeseven
Octode
 
threeseven's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Worcestershire, UK.
Posts: 1,880
Default Re: R4 Longwave sibilance again.

I concur, it is back.
__________________
BVWS member
threeseven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26th Aug 2014, 9:53 am   #183
stevehertz
Dekatron
 
stevehertz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Rugeley, Staffordshire, UK.
Posts: 8,830
Default Re: R4 Longwave sibilance again.

Apologies, I haven't waded through all the posts, but has there been any contact with the BBC on this, and what, if any, has been their response?
__________________
A digital radio is the latest thing, but a vintage wireless is forever..
stevehertz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26th Aug 2014, 10:34 am   #184
Station X
Moderator
 
Station X's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Ipswich, Suffolk, IP4, UK.
Posts: 21,287
Default Re: R4 Longwave sibilance again.

If you can find a way to contact the BBC online to report transmitter faults I'd be pleased to hear it.
__________________
Graham. Forum Moderator

Reach for your meter before you reach for your soldering iron.
Station X is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 26th Aug 2014, 11:06 am   #185
stevehertz
Dekatron
 
stevehertz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Rugeley, Staffordshire, UK.
Posts: 8,830
Default Re: R4 Longwave sibilance again.

Well, there's the phone number as previously linked to by yourself:https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/...23&postcount=7

I haven't experienced the problem because having recently come back to vintage radio and having been thoroughly disappointed with the effect that digital hash has had on AM transmissions, I'm currently getting my kicks with vintage FM sets. That's not to say that this matter does not concern me, it does. Has anyone had any luck with ringing that number on this matter?
__________________
A digital radio is the latest thing, but a vintage wireless is forever..
stevehertz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26th Aug 2014, 11:32 am   #186
Junk Box Nick
Octode
 
Junk Box Nick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: West Midlands, UK.
Posts: 1,571
Default Re: R4 Longwave sibilance again.

I have a novel way of registering my complaints that uses a method that older participants here might recall.

It involves a message written on paper placed in an envelope with the organisation's head office written on the front and a stamp - a little sticky thing with an image of the Queen's head upon it - placed in the top right hand corner. For younger viewers: you'll find more information at your local post office.

Serious point: When other methods disappear into a black hole or a never ending telephone queue, IME, the above method, whilst not instantaneous has allowed me to resolve issues that conventional methods do not.

In another direction Martin G7MRV has been of assistance in the past.
Junk Box Nick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26th Aug 2014, 11:44 am   #187
stevehertz
Dekatron
 
stevehertz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Rugeley, Staffordshire, UK.
Posts: 8,830
Default Re: R4 Longwave sibilance again.

Great post, great humour, and oh so true. How people have forgotten the ancient art of writing.
__________________
A digital radio is the latest thing, but a vintage wireless is forever..
stevehertz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26th Aug 2014, 11:55 am   #188
Station X
Moderator
 
Station X's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Ipswich, Suffolk, IP4, UK.
Posts: 21,287
Default Re: R4 Longwave sibilance again.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Junk Box Nick View Post
I have a novel way of registering my complaints that uses a method that older participants here might recall.

It involves a message written on paper placed in an envelope with the organisation's head office written on the front and a stamp - a little sticky thing with an image of the Queen's head upon it - placed in the top right hand corner. For younger viewers: you'll find more information at your local post office.
In my experience not worth bothering with unless you're going to use a signed for (not recorded delivery) service. You get no reply from the organisation concerned and when you phone them to query this you'll be told that your letter hasn't been received. That's if you can be bothered to listen to endless "Your important call is in a queue" messages.
__________________
Graham. Forum Moderator

Reach for your meter before you reach for your soldering iron.
Station X is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 27th Aug 2014, 5:39 pm   #189
PaulR
Dekatron
 
PaulR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Southport Lancashire, UK.
Posts: 3,233
Default Re: R4 Longwave sibilance again.

It seemed a bit better this morning listening in the car on the way to work
PaulR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29th Aug 2014, 5:04 am   #190
Restoration73
Nonode
 
Restoration73's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Surbiton, SW London, UK.
Posts: 2,801
Default Re: R4 Longwave sibilance again.

Just listened on a repaired Grundig, I have heard better audio on a C-60.
This transmitter which I believe was a converted Marconi MW unit, has rarely been without it's troubles from installation in 1989.
However there is a London transmitter (Spectrum 558) that listeners may care to check.
The internet or satellite audio feeds often have such severe hum or distortion I am surprised the listeners put up with it.
Restoration73 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30th Aug 2014, 12:35 am   #191
Hybrid tellies
Nonode
 
Hybrid tellies's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: 1966-1976 Coverack in Cornwall and Helston Cornwall. 1976-present Bristol/Bath area.
Posts: 2,965
Default Re: R4 Longwave sibilance again.

The distortion is now really bad and is totally unlistenable to. I am starting to think that it might be better to put the old girl out of her misery. Such a shame after all that work that was done at Droitwich over the summer months.

I have reported the fault. Found a number on the BBC RTIS site. They were not aware of any problems but they are now.
__________________
Simon
BVWS member
Hybrid tellies is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31st Aug 2014, 12:00 pm   #192
ian rose
Pentode
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Isle of Wight, UK.
Posts: 224
Default Re: R4 Longwave sibilance again.

I have the distinct impression that powers that be do not attach much importance to R4 LW any more since they know that it is not going to be in operation for much longer.
The continuity when they switch from LW to FM is now disgusting. A switch is 'thrown' by somebody at a particular time and interviews are cut off mid sentence when diverting to and from cricket and to and from the daily service.
The answer to a complaint is usually; ''move to DAB''.
ian rose is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31st Aug 2014, 1:57 pm   #193
stevehertz
Dekatron
 
stevehertz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Rugeley, Staffordshire, UK.
Posts: 8,830
Default Re: R4 Longwave sibilance again.

Well I posted words 'to this effect' a few days ago and the post was quickly deleted. I don't think you're supposed to talk ill of auntie on here!
__________________
A digital radio is the latest thing, but a vintage wireless is forever..
stevehertz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31st Aug 2014, 2:48 pm   #194
paulsherwin
Moderator
 
paulsherwin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Oxford, UK
Posts: 27,934
Default Re: R4 Longwave sibilance again.

Please stay on topic.
paulsherwin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd Sep 2014, 9:29 am   #195
Arqiva BOC
Retired Dormant Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Emley Moor, West Yorkshire, UK.
Posts: 92
Default Re: R4 Longwave sibilance again.

This fault is known about by our engineers, but it is not a simple fix on equipment of this vintage (something I'm sure should be appreciated by most on here!)

Rest assured also that the BBC are fully aware of the issue and are themselves very keen on a resolution.

Martin.
Arqiva BOC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th Sep 2014, 6:08 pm   #196
Hybrid tellies
Nonode
 
Hybrid tellies's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: 1966-1976 Coverack in Cornwall and Helston Cornwall. 1976-present Bristol/Bath area.
Posts: 2,965
Default Re: R4 Longwave sibilance again.

It sounds a lot better and I am listening to the news as I type on my Hacker Hunter RP38A. The modulation level and clarity is good with only a lower level of sibilance.
__________________
Simon
BVWS member
Hybrid tellies is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th Sep 2014, 6:39 pm   #197
threeseven
Octode
 
threeseven's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Worcestershire, UK.
Posts: 1,880
Default Re: R4 Longwave sibilance again.

With my conspiracy hat on, the sibilance could be a strategy to fool those that know no better that LW is poor quality compared to FM or DAB, because obviously the Beeb and Arqiva know how to fix the problem.
__________________
BVWS member
threeseven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 5th Sep 2014, 9:08 am   #198
Arqiva BOC
Retired Dormant Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Emley Moor, West Yorkshire, UK.
Posts: 92
Default Re: R4 Longwave sibilance again.

The fix is to repair a fault on very elderly and extremely complex equipment.
A very difficult, time consuming and expensive task.
Arqiva BOC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 5th Sep 2014, 1:54 pm   #199
Junk Box Nick
Octode
 
Junk Box Nick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: West Midlands, UK.
Posts: 1,571
Default Re: R4 Longwave sibilance again.

Listening to TMS today and the quality is much better.
Junk Box Nick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 5th Sep 2014, 8:02 pm   #200
threeseven
Octode
 
threeseven's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Worcestershire, UK.
Posts: 1,880
Default Re: R4 Longwave sibilance again.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arqiva BOC View Post
The fix is to repair a fault on very elderly and extremely complex equipment.
A very difficult, time consuming and expensive task.
It would be of interest to know of some more detail of the fault and the equipment concerned.
__________________
BVWS member
threeseven is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 11:02 pm.


All information and advice on this forum is subject to the WARNING AND DISCLAIMER located at https://www.vintage-radio.net/rules.html.
Failure to heed this warning may result in death or serious injury to yourself and/or others.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright ©2002 - 2023, Paul Stenning.