Elizabethan Pop ten - UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum

Growlerman · 26th May 2020, 8:52 pm

Hi

Does anybody have a circuit diagram that they can email me for an Elizabethan Pop Ten record player? I have looked in Paul’s archive to see if it’s there to download but nothing for the Pop Ten.

Thanks in advance

paulsherwin · 26th May 2020, 9:01 pm

This was actually my first record player. I don't have a circuit, but I think it had a basic UL84/UY85 amp typical of the early 60s, and an Autoslim deck.

Half a Mullard · 26th May 2020, 9:08 pm

Looks like a fairly basic Dansette clone, shouldn't be too complicated.

There is a thread about it here but no circuit unfortunately.

https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/...d.php?t=104173

Growlerman · 26th May 2020, 9:34 pm

Thanks guys.

It uses a transformer with a solid state rectifier and what looks like an EL84 but the writing has partly rubbed off so it almost says EL34. There is a large can capacitor which I suspect will contain 3 capacitors.
The record deck is a BSR UA14 with a TC8 cartridge which looks to be dead. The previous owner told me that everything worked but no sound!

I haven’t had time yet to delve deeper as I only got it tonight so it was only a quick look.
I did search and read the previous threads on the Pop Ten. It seems some came with the Garrard deck and some with the UA14.

paulsherwin · 26th May 2020, 9:49 pm

Yes, that's completely different to mine, which looked like the one in the linked thread. It sounds as if they were building them from whatever bits they had sitting around in the factory. No wonder it's difficult to find definitive service info.

Edward Huggins · 27th May 2020, 8:45 am

The one I serviced was as described in Post #4. It will be an EL84. If it needs a new cartridge, be aware that BSR TC8H Mono-only cartidges are available - known as an H TC8.

Growlerman · 27th May 2020, 4:53 pm

Thanks Edward

I’m tempted to put H TC8 into this arm as I only want to play 78rpm and mono 45s on this machine.
I’ve noticed there is a guy on eBay selling new TC8 cartridges. I think he is the guy who restores Dansettes based in Rochdale.

John10b · 27th May 2020, 6:14 pm

I know that Mike at Dansette.com, up north, sell the cartridge you want, he is very helpful.
John

26th May 2020, 8:52 pm	#1
Growlerman Hexode Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Northwich, Cheshire, UK. Posts: 313	Elizabethan Pop ten Hi Does anybody have a circuit diagram that they can email me for an Elizabethan Pop Ten record player? I have looked in Paul’s archive to see if it’s there to download but nothing for the Pop Ten. Thanks in advance

26th May 2020, 9:01 pm	#2
paulsherwin Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 27,966	Re: Elizabethan Pop ten This was actually my first record player. I don't have a circuit, but I think it had a basic UL84/UY85 amp typical of the early 60s, and an Autoslim deck.

26th May 2020, 9:08 pm	#3
Half a Mullard Hexode Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: East Yorkshire, UK. Posts: 354	Re: Elizabethan Pop ten Looks like a fairly basic Dansette clone, shouldn't be too complicated. There is a thread about it here but no circuit unfortunately. https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/...d.php?t=104173 __________________ Howard

26th May 2020, 9:49 pm	#5
paulsherwin Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 27,966	Re: Elizabethan Pop ten Yes, that's completely different to mine, which looked like the one in the linked thread. It sounds as if they were building them from whatever bits they had sitting around in the factory. No wonder it's difficult to find definitive service info.

27th May 2020, 8:45 am	#6
Edward Huggins Dekatron Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Southwold, Suffolk, UK. Posts: 8,338	Re: Elizabethan Pop ten The one I serviced was as described in Post #4. It will be an EL84. If it needs a new cartridge, be aware that BSR TC8H Mono-only cartidges are available - known as an H TC8. __________________ Edward.

26th May 2020, 9:34 pm	#4
Growlerman Hexode Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Northwich, Cheshire, UK. Posts: 313	Re: Elizabethan Pop ten Thanks guys. It uses a transformer with a solid state rectifier and what looks like an EL84 but the writing has partly rubbed off so it almost says EL34. There is a large can capacitor which I suspect will contain 3 capacitors. The record deck is a BSR UA14 with a TC8 cartridge which looks to be dead. The previous owner told me that everything worked but no sound! I haven’t had time yet to delve deeper as I only got it tonight so it was only a quick look. I did search and read the previous threads on the Pop Ten. It seems some came with the Garrard deck and some with the UA14.

27th May 2020, 4:53 pm	#7
Growlerman Hexode Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Northwich, Cheshire, UK. Posts: 313	Re: Elizabethan Pop ten Thanks Edward I’m tempted to put H TC8 into this arm as I only want to play 78rpm and mono 45s on this machine. I’ve noticed there is a guy on eBay selling new TC8 cartridges. I think he is the guy who restores Dansettes based in Rochdale.

27th May 2020, 6:14 pm	#8
John10b Nonode Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Aberaeron, Ceredigion, Wales, UK. Posts: 2,887	Re: Elizabethan Pop ten I know that Mike at Dansette.com, up north, sell the cartridge you want, he is very helpful. John