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26th Mar 2020, 4:34 pm | #1 |
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Friedland Phoenicia D525ST door chime
Does anyone know what diode i need for the above chime push button as i am now going to run on a transformer.
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26th Mar 2020, 5:08 pm | #2 |
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Re: Friedland phoenicia d525st door chime
Why don't you run it from a regulated 6v DC wall-wart?
a "diode" and "transformer" might imply an unregulated and unsmoothed supply which won't be suitable for an electronic chime. What kind of transformer is it?
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26th Mar 2020, 5:20 pm | #3 |
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Re: Friedland phoenicia d525st door chime
The chime is 8v the transformer is basic 4/8/12v type.
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4th Apr 2020, 3:11 pm | #4 |
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Re: Friedland Phoenicia D525ST door chime
Anyone out there can help please, the connections on the chime are ac v/ac c1 c2.
I have tried but to no avail. Many thanks Steve. |
4th Apr 2020, 3:31 pm | #5 |
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Re: Friedland Phoenicia D525ST door chime
Thought they just ran on AC about 8 volts or 4 batteries - but can't find your part number listed.
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4th Apr 2020, 3:36 pm | #6 |
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Re: Friedland Phoenicia D525ST door chime
It runs ok on the batts x3 but i just cant get it to work properly on a transformer 8v .
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4th Apr 2020, 3:39 pm | #7 |
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Re: Friedland Phoenicia D525ST door chime
I have found another number 46382 PL Ed 2.
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4th Apr 2020, 3:52 pm | #8 |
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Re: Friedland Phoenicia D525ST door chime
I presume that the C1 & C2 relate to different chimes. So there should be a common on one of the AC terminals that goes to the push and returns to C1 or C2. One of the AC terminals ought to be marked C or Com.
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4th Apr 2020, 3:59 pm | #9 |
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Re: Friedland Phoenicia D525ST door chime
1'm afraid this is above my ability I don't know much in this field.
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4th Apr 2020, 4:42 pm | #10 |
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Re: Friedland Phoenicia D525ST door chime
Show us a photo of the connection tags etc. As I can't find any info online for this unit.
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4th Apr 2020, 5:14 pm | #11 |
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Re: Friedland Phoenicia D525ST door chime
hope this helps.
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4th Apr 2020, 7:00 pm | #12 |
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Re: Friedland Phoenicia D525ST door chime
It should be - the transformer connects to ac and v/ac as per right hand side of your photo. The bell push connects to v/ac and C1 for two tones or v/ac and C2 fit a single tone. Make sure the batteries are not fitted and the transformer can supply a minimum of 1 amp.
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4th Apr 2020, 7:58 pm | #13 |
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Re: Friedland Phoenicia D525ST door chime
Thank's very much i will try in the morning and let you know how it goes.
Steve |
5th Apr 2020, 10:09 am | #14 |
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Re: Friedland Phoenicia D525ST door chime
Sorry to say tried that no joy, the bell push light comes on but no chime.
Thanks Steve |
5th Apr 2020, 10:24 am | #15 |
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Re: Friedland Phoenicia D525ST door chime
The two circuits appear to be dependant on if you have batteries fitted or not. With batteries fitted you can wire either way, but for transformer only you must use the RH version. That uses an extra connection from the transformer to the V/AC terminal. Have you missed that?
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5th Apr 2020, 10:26 am | #16 |
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Re: Friedland Phoenicia D525ST door chime
I have fitted the transformer to ac and v/ac push to v/ac and c1
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5th Apr 2020, 10:33 am | #17 |
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Re: Friedland Phoenicia D525ST door chime
Does the bell push light go out when you press the push?
Normally the bulb is wired in parallel with the push contacts so the fact that it is on indicates you do have a complete circuit and that the transformer is working. But it should go out when you press the push as the contacts will short-circuit the bulb Also try disconnecting the push wire from terminal C1. Then take another bit of wire (any electrical wire will do) and connect one end to terminal V/AC (along with the other wires that are there). With the transformer on, touch the other end of the 'extra' wire to C1. Anything? Touch it on C2. Anything then? Your extra wire is, of course, acting as the bell push and its connections. |
5th Apr 2020, 10:34 am | #18 |
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Re: Friedland Phoenicia D525ST door chime
Good news i was using an 8v plug in type changed it to proper transformer and it works.
Many thanks for all your help it was most appreciated. Steve. |