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19th Apr 2019, 3:25 am | #1 |
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New Member Rockola Princess 1493 Jukebox
Hi, My name is Doug. I live in Canada, I have a Rockola Princess 1493 jukebox that I have a problem with. I do have the manual. I have been searching the internet and came across an old post from 2010 about a problem one of the members was having with a Rockola 1493 so I joined the forum so i could ask member "the-juke" a question. I noticed in the post that you were going to change the microswitches. Did you ever do them and how did it turn out? The question I have for you is, did you happen to document the wiring (what coloured wires went to what terminal on what switch) I changed my switches because mine were working intermittent. I thought I did them right, I did one wire, one switch at a time and it is not working properly. I don't know which wire or wires I might have done wrong but it is not working properly. It works with two minor problems. When the gripper arm pulls out the record, it is slow. When the record trips at the end, the gripper puts the record back at normal speed. I know that has to do with switch #2. The other which I don't know if it's related to the microswitches is I lost my select light. It worked before I changed the switches, the bulb test fine.
If someone could help me with this, it would be much appreciated! Thank you, Doug |
19th Apr 2019, 9:24 am | #2 |
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Re: New Member Rockola Princess 1493 Jukebox
You are very welcome Doug, but you should bear in mind that jukeboxes are a fringe interest on this forum and you may find more help asking elsewhere.
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19th Apr 2019, 9:52 am | #3 |
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Re: New Member Rockola Princess 1493 Jukebox
Hi Doug, you could try here:-
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/inde...o90r6n4nsggbq& They have an area covering jukeboxes.
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19th Apr 2019, 6:47 pm | #4 |
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Re: New Member Rockola Princess 1493 Jukebox
Ok thank you
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20th Apr 2019, 5:45 pm | #5 |
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Re: New Member Rockola Princess 1493 Jukebox
Hi Doug, Andy here. Just been directed to your question re the 1493 Princess microswitches. I did change them, very recently. I am beginning to wish I had not. Like you I changed one at a time and now seem to have more problems than I started with. It may be that I disturbed something else and it is not directly the replacing of the switches. Sorry I cannot help further.
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20th Apr 2019, 6:50 pm | #6 |
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Ok Thanks Andy, I will get this figured out and when I do I'll let you know what I did.
What are the problems your having? Doug |
12th May 2019, 8:44 pm | #7 |
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Re: New Member Rockola Princess 1493 Jukebox
Andy, I had someone in the U.S. help me get it going. I had the micro-switches mis-wired. If I can help you with yours, let me know.
Doug |
17th May 2019, 6:50 pm | #8 |
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Re: New Member Rockola Princess 1493 Jukebox
hi am in the UK but restore jukeboxes...the microswitch wiring is on the machine schematic...remeber that you have to adjust the actuating arms after fitting new switches by adjusting the "Bristol" screws [look like allen screws but they are not] to make sure the switches operate correctly.
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17th May 2019, 10:27 pm | #9 |
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Re: New Member Rockola Princess 1493 Jukebox
I did wonder if the travel and switching points maybe didn't match the old switches and need adjusting. If so probably means a bit of trial and error. I have no experience of mending jukeboxes though. Or more serious perhaps the new switches have different pin out connections. Are microswitch connections standard?
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18th May 2019, 12:33 pm | #10 |
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Yes -- sort of. The positions of the moving, normally-open and normally-closed contacts are the same for each size of switch, but some switches may omit the NC or NO contact if the application requires only a single action..
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2nd Jun 2019, 8:31 pm | #11 |
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Hi Doug, I am sure I too have the wiring to the micro switches wrong. I thought I wired them exactly as I took the old ones off but I suspect I got something wrong. I am sure #1 switch is okay. I am not so confident about #2 and #3.
If your repairer left you a wiring diagram showing the colors of which wire goes where I would appreciate a copy. Andy. |
3rd Jun 2019, 7:26 am | #12 |
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Re: New Member Rockola Princess 1493 Jukebox
The bristol key is available from Stamann btw.
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18th Jul 2019, 7:17 am | #13 |
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Hi Andy, The wires going to the 3 micro-switches are as follows:
Switch #1 NO - Blue-Green NC - Orange-White COM - Red-White Switch #2 NO - Brown-White NC - White COM - Red-Blue Switch #3 NO - Brown-Black NC - Orange-Green COM - Blacks Hope this helps, Doug |