The Audiophoolery Thread. - Page 113 - UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum

greg_simons · 1st Apr 2021, 11:05 am

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Originally Posted by mole42uk

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Originally Posted by Beobloke

I'll just leave this here. Obviously I'm just off out to buy some...

http://www.theaudiobeat.com/equipment/lessloss_firewall_speaker.htm

"LessLoss makes no claim as to the Firewalls having any obviously measurable changes in the output of the signal at audio frequencies"

An admission that the only audible change is in the mind of the recently fleeced purchaser!.
Greg.

stevehertz · 1st Apr 2021, 11:50 am

It's also interesting that their hairy fairy, simile based, overtly vague descriptions of what is actually inside adds to the mystique as well as meaning nothing. Sweet honey for the audiophool; snake oil and voodoo at a satisfying, effect proving, sky high price.

Craig Sawyers · 1st Apr 2021, 12:19 pm

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Originally Posted by mole42uk

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beobloke

I'll just leave this here. Obviously I'm just off out to buy some...

http://www.theaudiobeat.com/equipment/lessloss_firewall_speaker.htm

"LessLoss makes no claim as to the Firewalls having any obviously measurable changes in the output of the signal at audio frequencies"

Well there you have it. One would hope not.

The next question is - does it have any measurable difference at *any* frequency.

Craig

Craig Sawyers · 1st Apr 2021, 12:36 pm

Alternatively, house plants for audiophiles

https://youtu.be/OyobCL8JMKg

Radio Wrangler · 1st Apr 2021, 12:59 pm

Once you've measured them, the force holding the fairy dust dissipates and they are ruined, no longer having any sonic benefit.

David

Malcolm G6ANZ · 1st Apr 2021, 3:16 pm

I grow carnivorous plants. What would their frequency response be ?

stevehertz · 1st Apr 2021, 3:34 pm

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Originally Posted by Malcolm G6ANZ

I grow carnivorous plants. What would their frequency response be ?

Not sure. But I'd expect them to make the sound more aggressive, forwards and with 'bite'.

1st Apr 2021, 3:41 pm

That reminds me to check that the grounding cable at my favourite distillery providing my very best audio upgrade (a glass from same) is of the very best quality, I don't want it blowing up! Should I upgrade my glass?

chriswood1900 · 1st Apr 2021, 4:03 pm

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Originally Posted by Craig Sawyers

Alternatively, house plants for audiophiles

https://youtu.be/OyobCL8JMKg

Craig That was great, I understand Russ Andrews will be releasing purified house plant water for £269 a litre.

bikerhifinut · 1st Apr 2021, 4:37 pm

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Originally Posted by Craig Sawyers

Alternatively, house plants for audiophiles

https://youtu.be/OyobCL8JMKg

The clues in the date.............................

And I rather liked his parting line. So true.

Andy

Craig Sawyers · 1st Apr 2021, 4:38 pm

So no-one spotted that the house plant you tube vid was on 1st April then?

Craig

Craig Sawyers · 1st Apr 2021, 4:38 pm

You beat me to the big reveal, Biker!

bikerhifinut · 1st Apr 2021, 4:47 pm

Sorry Craig............ I was chortling somewhat though

Valvepower · 2nd Apr 2021, 9:59 am

Turned the system on a this morning and it sounds a bit distorted on one channel... had a look at the Trusty ‘ole Radford STA12 and one of the EL34’s is seriously red plating to the point its going to expire, ah that’s the problem a serous bias failure..... but then I noticed the flowers in the room - pictures attached - threw them out and got some fresh flowers and hey presto the system sounds great.... the EL34 is still red plating like mad... nah, can’t see a problem there, now I have fresh flowers

Terry

GrimJosef · 2nd Apr 2021, 10:47 am

Are you saying I'm about to be undercut by florists Terry

!

By way of a fight-back maybe I should start mass-producing these (I built this Nixie clock as a present for my brother a few years ago)

?

Cheers,

GJ

fetteler · 2nd Apr 2021, 10:55 am

Your brother is a very lucky man! That clock is brilliant

Steve.

duncanlowe · 2nd Apr 2021, 11:42 am

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Originally Posted by GrimJosef

Are you saying I'm about to be undercut by florists Terry

!

By way of a fight-back maybe I should start mass-producing these (I built this Nixie clock as a present for my brother a few years ago)

?

Cheers,

GJ

Do you ever see the people on BBC breakfast on Saturday mornings regarding Covid? They have various competitions regarding plants / flowers / clocks. That is a hands down win!

Radio Wrangler · 2nd Apr 2021, 12:03 pm

Let's call a halt on the houseplants thing. It was, after all, an April fool jest taking the micky regarding some typical audiophool beliefs, so we wouldn't want to criticise it, would we?

David

Jez1234 · 2nd Apr 2021, 12:47 pm

Ah audiophoolery... the bane of my life...

I see quite a few names I know from hi fi forums here... I'm a little infamous for "telling it like it is" to people who believe that magic fuses and kettle leads improve their hi fi...

Believe me, to quote Corp Jones "They don't like it up em Mr Mainwaring"!! (things have got nasty on many occasions!)

As I've just joined up here I guess that for now I'll hold back on my opinions as I'm not sure if I've found a welcoming refuge amongst fellow uber sceptics... or yet another place where one is not welcome to say what they really think of people who whilst on the one hand admit they can't wire a 13A plug but then will argue night is day with an EE who specialises in audio design (me!) that a magic kettle lead at £400 can transform sound quality.

paulsherwin · 2nd Apr 2021, 1:07 pm

Just a reminder that this is a friendly forum, and the mods don't allow out and out attacks on the deluded, whether other forum members or not. Please don't go beyond gentle mockery. People with audiophool beliefs are more deserving of pity than hostility.

There are plenty of real electronic engineers and audio professionals among the membership here, so scepticism about audio woo is very much the dominant culture.

1st Apr 2021, 11:50 am	#2242
stevehertz Dekatron Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Rugeley, Staffordshire, UK. Posts: 9,419	Re: The Audiophoolery Thread. It's also interesting that their hairy fairy, simile based, overtly vague descriptions of what is actually inside adds to the mystique as well as meaning nothing. Sweet honey for the audiophool; snake oil and voodoo at a satisfying, effect proving, sky high price. __________________ A digital radio is the latest thing, but a vintage wireless is forever..

1st Apr 2021, 12:36 pm	#2244
Craig Sawyers Dekatron Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Oxford, UK. Posts: 5,644	Re: The Audiophoolery Thread. Alternatively, house plants for audiophiles https://youtu.be/OyobCL8JMKg

1st Apr 2021, 12:59 pm	#2245
Radio Wrangler Moderator Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Fife, Scotland, UK. Posts: 24,236	Re: The Audiophoolery Thread. Once you've measured them, the force holding the fairy dust dissipates and they are ruined, no longer having any sonic benefit. David __________________ Can't afford the volcanic island yet, but the plans for my monorail and the goons' uniforms are done

1st Apr 2021, 3:16 pm	#2246
Malcolm G6ANZ Octode Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bristol, UK. Posts: 1,089	Re: The Audiophoolery Thread. I grow carnivorous plants. What would their frequency response be ?

1st Apr 2021, 3:41 pm	#2248
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	Re: The Audiophoolery Thread. That reminds me to check that the grounding cable at my favourite distillery providing my very best audio upgrade (a glass from same) is of the very best quality, I don't want it blowing up! Should I upgrade my glass?

1st Apr 2021, 4:38 pm	#2251
Craig Sawyers Dekatron Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Oxford, UK. Posts: 5,644	Re: The Audiophoolery Thread. So no-one spotted that the house plant you tube vid was on 1st April then? Craig

1st Apr 2021, 4:38 pm	#2252
Craig Sawyers Dekatron Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Oxford, UK. Posts: 5,644	Re: The Audiophoolery Thread. You beat me to the big reveal, Biker!

1st Apr 2021, 4:47 pm	#2253
bikerhifinut Octode Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Penrith, Cumbria, UK Posts: 1,997	Re: The Audiophoolery Thread. Sorry Craig............ I was chortling somewhat though

2nd Apr 2021, 9:59 am	#2254
Valvepower Nonode Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Rayleigh near Southend-On-Sea, Essex, UK. Posts: 2,165	Re: The Audiophoolery Thread. Turned the system on a this morning and it sounds a bit distorted on one channel... had a look at the Trusty ‘ole Radford STA12 and one of the EL34’s is seriously red plating to the point its going to expire, ah that’s the problem a serous bias failure..... but then I noticed the flowers in the room - pictures attached - threw them out and got some fresh flowers and hey presto the system sounds great.... the EL34 is still red plating like mad... nah, can’t see a problem there, now I have fresh flowers Terry Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Valvepower; 2nd Apr 2021 at 10:08 am.

2nd Apr 2021, 10:47 am	#2255
GrimJosef Dekatron Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oxfordshire, UK. Posts: 4,449	Re: The Audiophoolery Thread. Are you saying I'm about to be undercut by florists Terry ! By way of a fight-back maybe I should start mass-producing these (I built this Nixie clock as a present for my brother a few years ago) ? Cheers, GJ Attached Thumbnails __________________ http://www.ampregen.com

2nd Apr 2021, 10:55 am	#2256
fetteler Octode Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Staffordshire Moorlands, UK. Posts: 1,559	Re: The Audiophoolery Thread. Your brother is a very lucky man! That clock is brilliant Steve. __________________ Those who lack imagination cannot imagine what is lacking...

2nd Apr 2021, 12:03 pm	#2258
Radio Wrangler Moderator Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Fife, Scotland, UK. Posts: 24,236	Re: The Audiophoolery Thread. Let's call a halt on the houseplants thing. It was, after all, an April fool jest taking the micky regarding some typical audiophool beliefs, so we wouldn't want to criticise it, would we? David __________________ Can't afford the volcanic island yet, but the plans for my monorail and the goons' uniforms are done

2nd Apr 2021, 12:47 pm	#2259
Jez1234 Banned Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: Morpeth, Northumberland, UK. Posts: 936	Re: The Audiophoolery Thread. Ah audiophoolery... the bane of my life... I see quite a few names I know from hi fi forums here... I'm a little infamous for "telling it like it is" to people who believe that magic fuses and kettle leads improve their hi fi... Believe me, to quote Corp Jones "They don't like it up em Mr Mainwaring"!! (things have got nasty on many occasions!) As I've just joined up here I guess that for now I'll hold back on my opinions as I'm not sure if I've found a welcoming refuge amongst fellow uber sceptics... or yet another place where one is not welcome to say what they *really think* of people who whilst on the one hand admit they can't wire a 13A plug but then will argue night is day with an EE who specialises in audio design (me!) that a magic kettle lead at £400 can transform sound quality.

2nd Apr 2021, 1:07 pm	#2260
paulsherwin Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 29,845	Re: The Audiophoolery Thread. Just a reminder that this is a friendly forum, and the mods don't allow out and out attacks on the deluded, whether other forum members or not. Please don't go beyond gentle mockery. People with audiophool beliefs are more deserving of pity than hostility. There are plenty of real electronic engineers and audio professionals among the membership here, so scepticism about audio woo is very much the dominant culture.