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Old 17th Oct 2018, 10:55 am   #1
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Can anyone help identify this Philips Radio - thanks.
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Old 17th Oct 2018, 11:08 am   #2
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Search for "Philips Bi Ampli"

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Old 17th Oct 2018, 11:13 am   #3
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Agreed, a Bi-Ampli not unlike this one.

https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/philip..._b5x14a54.html
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Old 17th Oct 2018, 12:09 pm   #4
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Or perhaps a B7X32A.
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Old 17th Oct 2018, 2:04 pm   #5
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Several plano models look like this. The easiest way is to look at the type label or if that has fallen off, the other small labels that are often on the chassis (one on the back, sometimes one underneath).
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Old 17th Oct 2018, 3:31 pm   #6
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Thanks guys - very helpful feedback as usual.

Looks like the set in this link: -

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...ereo-543267560

Can't seem to locate any Service Data for this though?
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Can't seem to locate any Service Data for this though?
Obviously the first step in sourcing service information is accurately identifying the model.

On Philips sets the label referred to in post number 5 above can generally be read through a rectangular slot cut in the back panel.
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Old 17th Oct 2018, 5:30 pm   #8
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Most Planos are covered by a plastic material,not this one.The scale looks exactly as the B7X32A,that's why I suggested it.
The FM/UKW scale says VHF,which is not used in many countries.
If you enlarge the picture you can barely read a small sign below the Philips badge to the right.Now does it read 'Made in England' or am I just fooling myself because I want to read that?
A question to the op-do you have the radio or plan to aquire it?In any case it will probably be easy to find a circuit diagram,but it requires pictures of the chassis and/or the valve/transistors used.
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The B5X94a schaltplan might do?

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Old 17th Oct 2018, 7:33 pm   #10
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I’ve got the same set as in the first post at home, can’t remember what model it is, I’ll have a look when I get back. I’ve also got the original instruction leaflet with it too. Nice sounding radio, and also works in stereo through the tape and gram inputs.

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Old 18th Oct 2018, 10:17 am   #11
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Thanks for all the additional input - much appreciated.

The set belongs to a friend who sent me the picture for some initial thoughts?

Agreed that the fist step is to get my hands on the set and identify the model - after that things will be much clearer and the next steps will fall into place.

I'll update you once I know more details.
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Hello,

Just been and had a look at mine, it’s a B5X23A

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Thanks Lloyd - now I know where to look.
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Old 18th Oct 2018, 1:32 pm   #14
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Most Planos are covered by a plastic material,not this one.The scale looks exactly as the B7X32A,that's why I suggested it.
The FM/UKW scale says VHF,which is not used in many countries.
The dial reading VHF could point to any plano model with a /15 suffix. Some models only had one destination, but whenever a model was adapted for different markets, this was mostly indicated by the execution number suffix and not (only) by the model number itself.
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Thanks Lloyd - now I know where to look.
You still don't, since you've now identified someone else's set, not yours It may be the same, but since a lot of planos look alike, it might not actually be that model. Especially if yours says "Made in England" (does it?) since Lloyd's set was made in Belgium (which Philips labeled Holland at the time)...
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You still don't, since you've now identified someone else's set, not yours

This is a valid point, you still need to look at the label on your set to be sure.
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Old 18th Oct 2018, 4:09 pm   #17
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X being Netherlands/Holland
G = UK
IF = Ireland

Belgium can be X or B
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https://www.radiomuseum.org/forum/ph...numbering.html

The letters can be side by side BX, BG or from 1956 have a digit B5X, B5G. The first digit is price group, thus a 4 is less expensive than a 5.
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Take care not to overrun the output transformers (g1 coupling capacitor etc) Looks like they're specials according to a schematic I'm looking at.

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Old 19th Oct 2018, 11:39 am   #19
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X being Netherlands/Holland
G = UK
IF = Ireland

Belgium can be X or B
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https://www.radiomuseum.org/forum/ph...numbering.html
Tables like that should be used with a bit of care (which by no means is criticism on your fine translation! Philips just liked to make things complicated), as should each and every explanation on Philips codes that is currently online (including ones I wrote or provided information for, since new information always comes up) - most are mostly correct but inevitably contain exceptions, smaller and larger errors or unproven or as of yet unverified information. Anyway, one thing I'm quite sure about: The letters in the type number, refer to the department that commercialised the model. While the letter B may have been reserved for Belgium, any set with that letter has yet to turn up so my current theory is that it was either never assigned or never used. As far as I know only the X was used for sets commercialised in Belgium. Reason I stated that Lloyd's plano was made in Belgium, are the letters PL in front of the serial number. In most cases these letters refer to the actual factory that made the set. Philips used to label Belgian made sets from a certain era "Made in Holland".

Plano sets with a model country letter G do exist, and I think IF planos exist as well. Also, Philips Netherlands commercialised export models. So there's plenty to choose from...

I fear I'm drifting somewhat off-topic. If the TS still wants to have his set identified with maximum degree of certainty, please have a look at the back or on the chassis. If labels fell off or are unreadable, a matching schematic can be found using the tube complement and chassis layout.

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Some useful info there, I was wondering how you came to the conclusion that my set was made in Belgium, and thought it was something to do with those 2 letters at the start of the serial number. There is a 'Made in Holland' sticker on the front just under the Philips badge.

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