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Old 21st May 2019, 3:45 pm   #41
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Isn't there an internet archive site somewhere? Perhaps it's there?
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Old 21st May 2019, 4:23 pm   #42
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There is, Graham; it's called The Wayback Machine. Sadly it's a bit hit and miss as to what works with it and what doesn't.

Here's an old-style PP3. I'm not claiming historical accuracy for any of my reproductions as I'm too young to have ever seen originals but they certainly looks more in keeping with vintage equipment than modern ones.
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Old 21st May 2019, 4:48 pm   #43
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Well done! It's here:-

https://web.archive.org/web/20180729...eriesframe.htm

Appears to be incomplete. I haven't checked earlier snapshots.
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Old 21st May 2019, 5:04 pm   #44
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Maybe the site is on the Google archive.
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Old 21st May 2019, 6:41 pm   #45
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The now dead link I gave in Post 9 now seems to be http://www.radionostalgia.ca/lib/Ima...tery/Unsorted/
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Old 21st May 2019, 9:40 pm   #46
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It's here:-

https://web.archive.org/web/20180729...eriesframe.htm

Appears to be incomplete. I haven't checked earlier snapshots.
Yes, it is unfortunately a bit of a mess - a number of the images are missing, and none of the enlargements (the real purpose of the site for printing the scans) are available. What a shame.

Well done for finding it though.
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Old 21st May 2019, 9:48 pm   #47
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The now dead link I gave in Post 9 now seems to be http://www.radionostalgia.ca/lib/Ima...tery/Unsorted/
Thanks for that.
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Old 22nd May 2019, 6:17 pm   #48
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Old-style No8 and 1289.

I THINK the No8 is the correct size but don't have a battery to check it against to make certain.
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Old 23rd May 2019, 7:58 am   #49
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PP4 (later round version).
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Old 23rd May 2019, 8:44 am   #50
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The PP4 scan is very interesting, thanks for posting it. The problem for anyone trying to replicate such a cell must be to achieve a realistic mAh capacity in a cylindrical shape. PP4s were originally presumably of layer construction using circular rather than rectangular disc cells. Perhaps circular DEAC cells could be used.

Has anyone actually managed successfully to construct a replica PP4? I have a piece of test gear that took three of them.
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Old 23rd May 2019, 9:26 am   #51
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The Small Battery Company sells new PP4s, but make sure you're sat down before looking at the price.

As for making one I suppose it depends on how much current the host device needs. Three lots of lithium buttons in parallel would be my starting point.

Poundland's solar garden lights have tiny 40mAh rechargeable cells so seven of those would give 8.4V.
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Old 23rd May 2019, 10:09 am   #52
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Pity, they state the price but conveniently forget to mention the mAh capacity! At the risk of going off topic, I’d guess that three parallel groups of three CR2025s in series would give about 450mAh, more if CR2032s would fit into the available space. Still, the price is perhaps understandable if good quality cells are being fitted. A high price to pay for originality though!
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I just cut the can off a new PP3 and used the snaps from a PP9 that had been used up in a TR82.
It worked for me.
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Old 12th Jun 2019, 12:11 pm   #54
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Ever Ready AD28
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B103. It's in several parts as it's far too big to print on a single sheet of A4 paper.
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Old 25th Jul 2019, 12:44 pm   #56
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Has anyone actually managed successfully to construct a replica PP4? I have a piece of test gear that took three of them.
I made it octagonal.
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It was a great resource, but I don't suppose anyone took over the information on that site when it closed.
I may have saved most of it.
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Old 31st Jul 2019, 1:15 pm   #58
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For reference I have attached scans of the (unfolded) cardboard casings of the 2 batteries. I assume they are well-know versions and that it is not worth trying to clean up the scans as they are already on the web.

I'll keep the cardboard at least for the moment though.
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AD35 can be found here.

B126 can be found here.
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That's the same AD35 version as the one I have, but I think my B126 is a newer type. But it's also the one I remember getting many years ago and I am sure somebody has already scanned it (one in rather better condition than mine).
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