UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Powered By Google Custom Search Vintage Radio and TV Service Data

Go Back   UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum > Specific Vintage Equipment > Vintage Radio (domestic)

Notices

Vintage Radio (domestic) Domestic vintage radio (wireless) receivers only.

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old 8th Oct 2010, 1:44 pm   #21
kalee20
Dekatron
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Lynton, N. Devon, UK.
Posts: 7,088
Default Re: Line Cord Dropper. To cut off or leave?

Valve heaters are designed to be connected to a 'stiff' voltage source, such as the mains, and yes, many series-connected sets do add up to around 115V. So they were directly connected.

Having said that, a dropper, as you say, will give a level of surge limiting. So replacing with an auto transformer will negate this. It's unlikely that any switch-on surge would fuse a valve heater - but if that ever happens, you'd kick yourself for throwing out your trusty line cord!
kalee20 is online now  
Old 9th Oct 2010, 9:43 am   #22
raditechman
Heptode
 
raditechman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: West London, UK.
Posts: 867
Default Re: Line Cord Dropper. To cut off or leave?

Just to more or less round off this thread. As I had already ordered the capacitor and bits, and they arrived earlier than I expected -the next morning- I fitted the capacitor etc. and the radio works OK. I am also going to order one of the "Wall Wart" autotransformers from Amazon as suggested by Jeffrey, as they are available there at a low price, and I may try that method later.
As for the valves blowing from switch on surge, to prevent this a thermistor could be used.
I have also rewired the single pole mains switch in the radio to switch the "live" side of the mains. It originally switched the neutral.
A 470K resistor has been fitted across the "dropper capacitor" to discharge it when the set is turned off and prevent shocks from touching the mains plug pins.
The old line cord has been placed in a large glass jar with a screw on lid for safe keeping, whilst still being able to look at.

John
raditechman is offline  
Old 11th Oct 2010, 8:08 am   #23
ppppenguin
Retired Dormant Member
 
ppppenguin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: North London, UK.
Posts: 6,168
Default Re: Line Cord Dropper. To cut off or leave?

A small point when ordering low cost voltage converters. Some of these are electronic devices, akin to triac dimmers, totally unsuited to our purposes. If there is a weight given and it's over 500g then there's real copper and iron present. I think the little 45W transformers weigh around 1kg. If no weight is given then be wary.
ppppenguin is offline  
Old 11th Oct 2010, 12:02 pm   #24
peetleetech
Retired Dormant Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Kempton Park, Gauteng, South Africa.
Posts: 84
Default Re: Line Cord Dropper. To cut off or leave?

Not to harp on the matter, John, the HT is possibly a problem, more for the capacitors, though. No, I meant for the filaments. Would the filaments benefit from slowing the build up of voltage? There is actually a device for this sort of thing. I first encountered it when building a Lindsay Hood amplifier, it's called a "brimistor".
Peter. (peetleetech is such a long word)
peetleetech is offline  
Old 11th Oct 2010, 12:09 pm   #25
Herald1360
Dekatron
 
Herald1360's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Leominster, Herefordshire, UK.
Posts: 16,536
Default Re: Line Cord Dropper. To cut off or leave?

Quote:
Originally Posted by raditechman View Post
As for the valves blowing from switch on surge, to prevent this a thermistor could be used.
Originally Posted by peetleetech
There is actually a device for this sort of thing. I first encountered it when building a Lindsay Hood amplifier, it's called a "brimistor".



A Brimistor is simply a trademark name for a thermistor (cf Hoover, Biro etc etc)
__________________
....__________
....|____||__|__\_____
.=.| _---\__|__|_---_|.
.........O..Chris....O
Herald1360 is offline  
Old 11th Oct 2010, 12:36 pm   #26
murphyv310
Dekatron
 
murphyv310's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, UK.
Posts: 5,422
Default Re: Line Cord Dropper. To cut off or leave?

One snag with a thermistor is that even when hot it stays hot and drops voltage so when the heater chain adds up to 115v and is supplied with 115v a thermistor is less than ideal as the the valves will then be under run with the loss through a "hot" thermistor.
__________________
Cheers,
Trevor.
MM0KJJ. RSGB, GQRP, WACRAL, K&LARC. Member
murphyv310 is offline  
Old 11th Oct 2010, 12:43 pm   #27
fidobsa
Retired Dormant Member
 
fidobsa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Zala, Hungary
Posts: 418
Default Re: Line Cord Dropper. To cut off or leave?

One idea if the set is always used in the same room is to have a transformer hidden somewhere connected to an American 110 volt socket mounted near the set. You could then leave the set totally original, even down to the original type of mains plug.
fidobsa is offline  
Old 31st Oct 2010, 8:23 pm   #28
Derek vivian
Retired Dormant Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: TACOLNESTON WYMONDHAM
Posts: 2
Default Re: Line Cord Dropper. To cut off or leave?

Hi I have several line dropper sets and have always ditched the cord and used cap droppers instead they work fine
Derek vivian is offline  
Closed Thread




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 10:13 am.


All information and advice on this forum is subject to the WARNING AND DISCLAIMER located at https://www.vintage-radio.net/rules.html.
Failure to heed this warning may result in death or serious injury to yourself and/or others.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright ©2002 - 2023, Paul Stenning.