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Old 18th Dec 2019, 2:09 pm   #1
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Default Wartime Civilian Receiver Information & Parts Wanted

As many of you know I am always on the look-out for information, odds and ends, and equipment concerning the Wartime Civilian Receiver or "Utility radio" as it is commonly referred too and regularly have a personal ad on the BVWS members "wants" sheet.
Currently I am looking to build up my documentation, pictures and information on some of the more lesser found manufacturers, such as Roberts Radio (U33), Solectric (U41), Aren Radio & Tv (U38), Vidor (U12a), RN Fitton (U28), NH Radio Products (U39), Beethoven Electric Equipment Company (U36) etc.
I am also looking to try and acquire some of the manufacturers add on "LW converter kits" that were produced just after the war to increase the use of the radio.
If you have anything at all you think I might be interested in, please could you drop me a PM.

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Old 17th Jan 2020, 1:59 pm   #2
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Just giving this one a bump.
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Old 17th Jan 2020, 2:06 pm   #3
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My set is made by Burndept (U12 I think) and is in fairly original condition other than some non BVA marked replacement valves. It looks very typical of these sets to me, but send me a PM if you need any specific details.

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Old 17th Jan 2020, 2:55 pm   #4
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Hi Leon,
Thanks for the reply. The Burndept is one of the less common Utility radios found and I do have one in my collection but I will still PM you later as I think that some parts on mine have been replaced some time in it past with non original parts and would like to check with yours if that's ok.

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Old 29th May 2020, 2:32 pm   #5
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Old 11th Jul 2020, 4:21 pm   #6
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Just giving this one a bump.
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Old 11th Jul 2020, 6:56 pm   #7
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Hi Peter,

One of my two sets is clearly stamped U41, i.e. Solectric - I think I've seen a list (in Radio! Radio!?) which says that they only produced the battery version, but this one is for AC mains. Any particular details or photos you would like?

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I cannot see any "U" stamp on my mains set. The only distinctive feature is that the speaker has a square magnet.

On the rear cover there are two round holes only, all the others being slots.

Long wave has been added, although I do not know when and if an official kit.
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Old 11th Jul 2020, 9:19 pm   #9
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Hi Paul

Thanks for the reply. Any photos of the set would be greatly appreciated particularly the inside and the IF cans (useful identity aid) and the front with the type of knobs fitted.
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Old 11th Jul 2020, 9:42 pm   #10
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Hi Restoration73

Many thanks for the reply.

Sadly quite a lot of the various receivers made had a square permanent magnet speaker, U2 (Ekco), U3 (Cossor), U5 (Ferguson), U6 (Gec) to name but a few and again most of the LW conversions were done by the owner based on suggested circuits of the time. A dark dial instead of the standard beige one on the set usually signify's a manufacturers conversion post war.

As I said in Paul's post, a good identifier to the receivers make is the IF transformer and if you would like to send me a picture of yours the I am more than happy to try and identify it for you.

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Hello Peter,

Photos as promised. I thought I had done at least a basic overhaul/repair on this set, but from what's under the chassis I clearly haven't: I did get one of these working for someone else long ago, so I must have been remembering that job. The original 'speaker cloth was destroyed, so I haven't included a photo of the replacement, which I salvaged from a 1940 Pye. Can't of course be sure that the knobs are correct, but they were on the set when it came to me 30-odd years ago.

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Old 20th Jul 2020, 10:04 am   #13
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Hi Paul.

Many thanks for the pictures, greatly appreciated. Will add them to my database. Certainly looking at the IF Transformers, they are new to me, I've seen ones nearly similar but not that type.

Once again many thanks.

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Old 1st Sep 2020, 8:08 am   #14
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Just giving this one a bump.
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Old 7th Sep 2020, 4:56 pm   #15
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Peter, here's a pic of my receiver's IF can. The rx has no U mark so I'd appreciate your suggestion as to who made it.

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Old 7th Sep 2020, 5:52 pm   #16
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I've seen similar cans on EMI sets of the period.
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Old 8th Sep 2020, 9:11 am   #17
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Hi Bryan,

Apologies for the delay in replying. I have had a look through my database and collection and my records indicate that your type of IF transformer was used extensively in both the U4 (Gramaphone Company Ltd, ie HMV) and the U4a (Marconi) makes.

Other indicators to narrow it down to these two manufacturers can be found in things such as the circuit wiring (C11 and C12 being connected to L8 rather than earth), the speaker being often enclosed in a black cloth cover on these and the style of knobs fitted. The style of knobs can probably help narrow it down even more to which of the two it was as there were slightly differences between the two manufacturers in the knobs they fitted (assuming of course yours is in original condition and has not been modified or tampered with through time)

Finally both models had a paper U number stuck on rather than a stamped one, hence probably why yours cannot be found as they are very prone to becoming unstuck or deteriorating through age etc although quite often a mark on the chassis can be still seen as too where it would have been.

Hope this helps.
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Old 9th Sep 2020, 1:08 pm   #18
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Thankyou, Peter and Mike. I'll do some more research, and let you know the result.
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I did wonder why production was spread over almost all the British radio industry, rather than choose a few manufacturers.

Was it so it wouldn't interfere with war production? or to make sure there wasn't any favouritism towards certain manufacturers when awarding contracts?
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Peter, mine must be a U4 or U4a according to the wiring details you mention and which I've checked on mine. In fact these variants are mentioned in the Trader notes if I'd bothered to read the small print.
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