Silvertone tape recorder

[hillmanie]

Preliminary question - The recorder is a Revelation and I think may be Citation model but not sure. Paul doesn't list it so I'm asking here if anyone may have the schematics for it. If not, the plan is to convert what I see physically into a circuit diagram by writing down what each component is connected to etc. It's a simple enough looking affair with the usual 3 valves ECC, ECL and EM Magic Eye as found in many British made recorders. I can probably work it out from schematics I have for comparison. When done and I've made some tests I will undoubtedly be back here looking for help! The issue is the erase not working. It records and replays my voice but doesn't overwrite the previous recording.
TT.

[DMcMahon]

Not a make/model I have heard of.

[hillmanie]

The Revelation bit is written on the lid OK (I'll be posting pics when I start dumping on you folks) Funny thing is it rings a faint bell somewhere, but of course in my case that somewhere could be anywhere, like for instance something from the Bible. Not my forte though, as have visited tech books more often. It's got the Collaro Studio deck
T

[hillmanie]

Dear me but I do get those brain off the perch spasms. Wrong lid. Found a piece of paper inside the works citing Silvertone, no model. Paul has this brand radio but no recorder listed. Otherwise my original post is valid
T

[AC/HL]

Thread retitled, can you post some photographs to help identification.

[hillmanie]

Thanks Bill. Will do. Have to make a little space and I'm in business

[DMcMahon]

The only Silvertone schematic I could easily find was for an earlier radio + wire recorder model the 8086/8102.

[hillmanie]

Agreed. Definitely a minority product. (Having camera trouble just now) It may well be that the electronics are very standard, after I've drawn it from the components. I'll bring all the info I have to the Forum asap plus my certain plea for help
Thanks
T

[ben]

Googling 'silvertone reel tape' brought up a number of models, mostly US origin. Maybe one is yours?

[hillmanie]

Now that is interesting. Either I was Googling in the wrong place or with finger trouble. I feel I'm not helping until I can take viewable pics, (can't get them bright) but meanwhile it seems mine is European. Has the Collaro Studio deck and 250v electrics. The wiring has a touch of home brew about it. Maybe it was just the box was Silvertone.
Will update asap
T

[Edward Huggins]

Not sure if this helps the Maker identification, but the luggage maker REVELATION had a small range of quite well built and specified portable record players made for them in around 1960-1962. This was the same period as the (excellent) Collaro "Studio" deck.

[vidjoman]

Silvertone is an American maker. Revelation was/is a maker of suitcases and similar. Back in the 1960’s they ventured into record players and tape decks, as they made the carry cases and sold as Silvertone but don’t know if there was any connection with the American company. Don’t think very many were sold as most people wanted a “Dansette”.
No idea who made the electronics but possibly Fidelity or Elizabethan.

[AC/HL]

Might not have been the wrong lid after all!

[hillmanie]

The thick plottens. Saga to be continued.....
T

[vidjoman]

Pictures of the amp may reveal a maker.

[hillmanie]

Sadly, I've taken a few and they're awful No Vogue magazine job for me. Then the camera bombed out. Will have to start again and revert

[hillmanie]

Have uploaded pics of the circuit board and the cabinet lid, quality not yet wonderful. (can't see them - have I mucked up) I didn't get close enough to the big blue capacitor to read the values but I know there are experts here who will make something of it
The valves are EF86, ECL86 and EM84 Magic Eye Thanks for the help.

[hillmanie]

Originally Posted by hillmanie

Have uploaded pics of the circuit board and the cabinet lid, quality not yet wonderful. (can't see them - have I mucked up)

The upload seems to have worked OK but 'fraid I can't see the pics as attachments to the posting. Thought they'd show as thumbnails

Do I have to create an Album first?
Does it work with Reply or do I have start a new Thread

Thanks for patience
TT

[DMcMahon]

One way is, start a new reply (Quick Reply), then after typing up any required text you then select "Go Advanced" then scroll down a bit to select "Manage Attachments", then from the Manage Attachments pop up window you select (up to a max of 5) your files by selecting Browse and then select "Upload".

After a delay you then should see your files shown as attachments to your message, once happy then select "Post Quick Reply".

Depending upon the file type being attached there are file size limits, so if your file (s) are larger than the file size limit, the file (s) will not be accepted as attachments.

David

[hillmanie]

Thanks for that, David. I have been fumbling with something like that procedure but obviously missed something. I got as far as seeing the 5 files all ticked/checked by name but when I selected the UPLOAD button nothing seemed to happen. I'll now follow your instructions to the letter and report back
Tony