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Old 5th Jan 2005, 8:58 am   #1
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Default "Energetica" museum in Amsterdam

I was in Amsterdam over the new year and visited the Energetica museum there. It's in an old power station and most of its exhibits relate to electricity rather than electronics. They have a nice little collection of Philips radios and TVs, some of which are demonstrated. No standards conversion problems there!

All the labels etc are in Dutch but the guys who run the place speak English and demonstrate with enthusiasm. Recommended. Especially if your interests extend beyond wireless/TV to power generation, distribution and domestic appliances.

The web site:

http://www.energetica.nl

is in Dutch only but Babelfish makes a stab at translating it.

[slightly OT] The museum is only a short walk from the Ij Brewery for those of you who are interested in this important field of engineering

http://www.brouwerijhetij.nl/eng/
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Continuing with the museum thread, on a recent visit to Paris I took time out to visit 'Le Musee de Radio France'. This museum is situated in a splendid building, 'La Maison de Radio France', easily accessable by the No 72 bus. Entrance is 5 and there is a splendid glossy book showing lots of the exhibits for 10. There are two sessions a day, morning and 14.30 in the afternoon. (It is important to get there on time.) It is a conducted tour and although in French everything is obvious. The museum is laid out in chronological order of development of radio and TV. There are some good mock ups of early studios and the tour concludes with a visit to one of the Radio France concert halls. The only disadvantage is that one cannot linger to look at exhibits of specific interest.
Well worth a visit.

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This sounds rather better than the radio and TV exhibit at the Musee des Arts et Metiers in Paris. You would leave that exhibit with the distinct impression that TV was invented by Bertholdy in France in 1931.

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(I think the ! is in the correct place, spelling now corrected)

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Rule! Brittania
(I think the ! is in the correct place)
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Sadly, it has gained a 't' and lost an 'n', though, Jeffrey!
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I share Jeffery's opinion over who invented what. I visited the Musee des Arts & Metiers last year. A fine display of marine chronometers but not a mention of Harrison.

In much the same way as when visiting Epcot in Florida I saw a large plaque giving credit to inventors around the world. The invention of TV was accredited to Farnsworth. Possibly rightly, but not a mention of our John Logie.

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John Logie did get a mention in 'Le Musee de Radio France' , but only just.

What can you do with these French. Our 12-year old neighbour went on a school visit to London and the teacher told them that they couldn't go on the Underground - because it didn't work anymore! Also try telling them that them that there are better restaurants in London than perhaps anywhere.

I don't want this to develop into an anti-French bash, there are advantages to living here.

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"there are advantages to living here."

Yes, successive governments that look after the interests of their citizens. General belief that an industrial sector, and a decent welfare system are important to a country to name but 3!
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Can we stick to museums please.
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A photo I took at Energetica. I think it's a pair of Philips TX400 with one of them showing a picture. The bare chassis was displayed with a mirror underneath so you could see the underside of the chassis.
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Good idea,
I repaired one for a friend and I remember the ECL80 for the
V- deflection works with the Booster voltage to keep the
current low.

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On the subject of Baird and Farnsworth, there's an ongoing discussion on the US antique-radio Forum, up to 73 posts at last count, some by Baird's grandson Iain Logie Baird:

http://antiqueradios.com/forums/Forum6/HTML/001290.html
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Good idea,
I repaired one for a friend and I remember the ECL80 for the
V- deflection works with the Booster voltage to keep the
current low.

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As I understand it, the frame circuits in valve receivers used the boost supply to improve linearity. Using the higher voltage enabled them to use only the linear part of the curve instead of having to use it all.
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Hi AC/HL,
I am talking about the power amp that drives the V deflection coil.
Not the V osc.
At the moment I can not find the schematic.

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Friends,

This is getting well away from the topic title. If we want to talk about TX400 problems (an interesting and worthwhile subject) can we please start a new topic in the TV section before the moderators take action.

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Hi Jeffrey, there is a TX400 in the TV section, but I did not know that
this set is the TX400. When I find my schematic I'll pose it there...
https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/...ead.php?t=1366



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