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Old 30th Aug 2023, 5:38 pm   #81
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I always found the practice in GB of not fitting VHF tuners in sets as absolutely daft - talk about shooting yourselves in the foot and ensuring that your sets were useless in every other country on the planet - converters were absolutely not the answer as to produce one with adequate performance would have made the exercise uneconomic - I shouldn’t complain as I made quite a few bob converting sets from GB that had been acquired by unsuspecting punters

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I heard Stevenage had a VHF 625 line cable system, but finding translator boxes or TV sets that could tune into them was a challenge.

I heard this from someone moved into the town & found they needed either of the above to get TV, they tried to get the local Philips dealer to special order them an Irish market set but they couldn't, so I think they had to put up with an indoor aerial until they found a second hand transical about ator box for sale.
Indeed. I had a big argument with Philips technical as I needed a set for Stevenage. So I was not the only one. Their take on it was that there was no point in fitting something what was not needed. My argument was that it was needed in Stevenage and elsewhere. They told me to get an upconverter. I said the quality was not good enough. Interestingly some years later, late 90s, Philips started fitting multiband tuners to UK sets. Perhaps the penny dropped at last! I solved the Stevenage problem with a Grundig, that was before they were part of Philips.
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Old 30th Aug 2023, 10:29 pm   #82
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I bought a 21" Philips set in 2001 which had a multiband tuner, & was probably designed for sale all over Europe. I'm not sure if it could tune SECAM, but I think it could manage PAL B/G.

When 405 lines ended was their any consideration to use VHF for future TV broadcasts?

Conversely some countries didn't use UHF at first, I've seen pictures of Australian portable sets with a badge where a UHF tuner knob would have been, like many UK spec ones missing a VHF tunner. New Zealand & Brazil were other countries that were late to use UHF.
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Old 31st Aug 2023, 6:40 am   #83
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Hi Simon
Thanks very much
My camera didn't take a very good picture though
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Old 31st Aug 2023, 8:58 am   #84
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Old 31st Aug 2023, 9:30 am   #85
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Old 31st Aug 2023, 4:43 pm   #86
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Excellent! A satisfactory ending. Well done thermionic.
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Old 21st Sep 2023, 9:28 am   #87
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Got a slight problem with the 1500
I've connected a DVD player via a modulator
However the set seems to have too much gain
On playing a DVD I have a buzz on sound depending on what picture or text is showing and on showing Test Card C I have backed the Contrast control right back
There seems to be too much gain, how do I reduce the gain or does it need an attenuator on the aerial socket?
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Old 21st Sep 2023, 9:40 am   #88
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An attenuator would do the trick - get a variable one. Otherwise didn't the 1500 have a local-distant preset or was that just the 1400?
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Otherwise didn't the 1500 have a local-distant preset?
Yes, it does have a tuner gain / local-distant preset on the main board.
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Old 21st Sep 2023, 10:05 am   #90
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I am sure the 1500 did have a local distance control which will be worth while adjusting. If memory serves me correctly you adjust until the picture starts going grainy hen back off slightly until picture is clear.
Otherwise as others have stated try attenuating the incoming RF signal.
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I bought a 21" Philips set in 2001 which had a multiband tuner, & was probably designed for sale all over Europe. I'm not sure if it could tune SECAM, but I think it could manage PAL B/G.

When 405 lines ended was their any consideration to use VHF for future TV broadcasts?

Conversely some countries didn't use UHF at first, I've seen pictures of Australian portable sets with a badge where a UHF tuner knob would have been, like many UK spec ones missing a VHF tunner. New Zealand & Brazil were other countries that were late to use UHF.
I don't think there was any intention to use either of the VHF bands in the UK for TV broadcasting that's why all new British single standard 625 sets were just fitted with a UHF tuner. VHF band 3 being handed over for PMR use.
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Old 21st Sep 2023, 10:16 am   #92
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Thanks everyone for your help
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I bought a 21" Philips set in 2001 which had a multiband tuner, & was probably designed for sale all over Europe. I'm not sure if it could tune SECAM, but I think it could manage PAL B/G.

When 405 lines ended was their any consideration to use VHF for future TV broadcasts?

Conversely some countries didn't use UHF at first, I've seen pictures of Australian portable sets with a badge where a UHF tuner knob would have been, like many UK spec ones missing a VHF tunner. New Zealand & Brazil were other countries that were late to use UHF.
I don't think there was any intention to use either of the VHF bands in the UK for TV broadcasting that's why all new British single standard 625 sets were just fitted with a UHF tuner. VHF band 3 being handed over for PMR use.
OK I thought so.
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Old 27th Sep 2023, 8:25 am   #94
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Yesterday I received my variable Attenuator
On adjusting it and the 'Local / Distant' control on the Ferguson all was ok
This morning I watched a film 'Cornwall the land od legend' and there was no buzz, or overloading
All is fine now
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