Ceramic and Crystal cartridge specs. - UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum

ben · 6th Sep 2015, 6:56 pm

I am currently collating data on the more well known cartridges of yore. of course I'm missing some data - does anyone have the output specs for:

the BSR TC8 M, H, S
Acos Hi G, and Acos GP104
Garrard GC-2

more to follow. Thanks!

Alistair D · 7th Sep 2015, 12:27 am

Not sure if this will help you or not. Vinylengine are also attempting to collate cartridge data.

http://www.vinylengine.com/cartridge_database.php

Al

Peter88gate · 7th Sep 2015, 1:39 pm

I have found a leaflet for the BSR TC8 and it seems there were three versions, the TC8M, TC8H/1 and TC8H/2. The latter version had a 1.1 volt output.

Peter

Peter88gate · 8th Sep 2015, 4:33 pm

I have now found details for the Acos GP104 culled from old Home Radio & Maplin catalogues. Maplin refer to it as the Acos 104 but I think it is the same thing.

Peter

ben · 9th Sep 2015, 12:17 am

Great information, the document is coming along nicely!

Am still after verifiable data on:
BSR X3M, H.
BSR X5H.
BSR SX6M, H
RONETTE STEREO 105

Nickthedentist · 9th Sep 2015, 9:05 am

Might have the X5H data at home, remind me if I don't get back to you, Ben, please. I'm sure I bought a couple of these NOS from "Gwarpy", complete with boxes and printed insert with specs.

Peter88gate · 9th Sep 2015, 3:06 pm

The BSR X5H, X5M and SX6M, SX6H details from an old Maplin catalogue; the Ronette 105 details from an old Home Radio catalogue. Sorry can't find any details on the X3M & H.

Peter

ben · 9th Sep 2015, 3:36 pm

Thanks so much (again) Peter. Data added.

Still after :
BSR X3
ACOS HI- G
GARRARD GC2

Also, the data I have for the SONOTONE 9TA /9TAHC is from an American ad, and another magazine article/review so would appreciate any alterative sources for this to corroborate what I have.

Peter88gate · 9th Sep 2015, 4:35 pm

Details for the Sonotone 9TAHC from the Maplin catalogue.

Peter

Deccatech · 23rd Sep 2015, 5:57 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ben

Great information, the document is coming along nicely!

Am still after verifiable data on:
BSR X3M, H.
BSR X5H.
BSR SX6M, H
RONETTE STEREO 105

Ben, really pleased to read of your useful project. Might it be made available on the forum? I'm surprised at how much I've forgotten about which cartridge was best in what situation! I'm sure I knew back in the 70's (or maybe I wasn't so fussy back then?). Am trying to decide what to fit in a Dynatron GR8, a Garrard KS40A sounds nice, tonally but its output is rather high. Any advice would be appreciated!

awc · 24th Sep 2015, 11:43 am

Hope this helps.

Alex

ben · 24th Sep 2015, 12:10 pm

Still working on it. There's such a lot of information, it is taking a while!
I've got nearly all the BSRs done, which is the lion's share. Also quite a few Acos, need to finish the Sonotones. The 2509/3509/3559 series is a bit more complicated as there are Garrard and Pinnacle equivalents, so I need to check a lot of data to try and be sure all equivalents are listed correctly.
Watch this space. And thanks too Alex for the info, very useful.

jonnybear · 27th Sep 2015, 6:52 pm

I have quite a few details in a book published in 1964. do you mean Acos HGP33-1?.
john

ben · 5th Nov 2015, 10:54 pm

Despite a few gaps I have at last got some semblance of a document together, as promised earlier.

At the start of the document is the main list/database. I have indicated:
-Manufactuter
-cart model,
-Styli used,
-Tracking weight in G,
-Stereo, Stereo-compatible or Mono.
-Output in mV (usually at 1 or 1.2cm/s but often this data is missing).

There then follows a collection of miscellanea on the subject: cartridge ads, spec sheets, instruction cards and general information, collated from my collection, contributions here, and that found online in various places.

I still need to finish the Sonotone section and correct one or two inaccuracies or unconfirmed details, so bear with me! The subsequent editions of the document will have any amendments/corrections, plus any updated and new information.

A always, keep the info coming and feel free to point out anything I have missed. I appreciate the help.

mally1956 · 6th Nov 2015, 2:42 am

Nice work Ben !

Nickthedentist · 6th Nov 2015, 8:22 am

Superb, Ben, just what we've been waiting for.

N.

Bobdger · 6th Nov 2015, 8:48 am

Thanks Ben.

AC/HL · 6th Nov 2015, 4:28 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ben

I appreciate the help.

The appreciation is ours!

Norman Raeburn · 6th Nov 2015, 9:20 pm

Hi Ben, Thanks to you and all who helped, I have saved a copy for future reference. Norman

D_S_J_R · 6th Nov 2015, 10:01 pm

Well done Ben!

The Acos GP96-1 was tracked by Hacker at 5g (if that's any help).

6th Sep 2015, 6:56 pm	#1
ben Dekatron Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Madrid, Spain / Wirral, UK Posts: 7,326	Ceramic and Crystal cartridge specs. I am currently collating data on the more well known cartridges of yore. of course I'm missing some data - does anyone have the output specs for: the BSR TC8 M, H, S Acos Hi G, and Acos GP104 Garrard GC-2 more to follow. Thanks! __________________ Regards, Ben.

7th Sep 2015, 12:27 am	#2
Alistair D Nonode Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Edinburgh, UK. Posts: 2,008	Re: Ceramic and Crystal cartridge specs. Not sure if this will help you or not. Vinylengine are also attempting to collate cartridge data. http://www.vinylengine.com/cartridge_database.php Al __________________ I won't tell you how I discovered that.

9th Sep 2015, 12:17 am	#5
ben Dekatron Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Madrid, Spain / Wirral, UK Posts: 7,326	Re: Ceramic and Crystal cartridge specs. Great information, the document is coming along nicely! Am still after verifiable data on: BSR X3M, H. BSR X5H. BSR SX6M, H RONETTE STEREO 105 __________________ Regards, Ben.

9th Sep 2015, 9:05 am	#6
Nickthedentist Dekatron Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oxford, UK. Posts: 17,559	Re: Ceramic and Crystal cartridge specs. Might have the X5H data at home, remind me if I don't get back to you, Ben, please. I'm sure I bought a couple of these NOS from "Gwarpy", complete with boxes and printed insert with specs.

9th Sep 2015, 3:36 pm	#8
ben Dekatron Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Madrid, Spain / Wirral, UK Posts: 7,326	Re: Ceramic and Crystal cartridge specs. Thanks so much (again) Peter. Data added. Still after : BSR X3 ACOS HI- G GARRARD GC2 Also, the data I have for the SONOTONE 9TA /9TAHC is from an American ad, and another magazine article/review so would appreciate any alterative sources for this to corroborate what I have. __________________ Regards, Ben.

9th Sep 2015, 4:35 pm	#9
Peter88gate Tetrode Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: London, UK. Posts: 82	Re: Ceramic and Crystal cartridge specs. Details for the Sonotone 9TAHC from the Maplin catalogue. Peter Attached Thumbnails

24th Sep 2015, 12:10 pm	#12
ben Dekatron Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Madrid, Spain / Wirral, UK Posts: 7,326	Re: Ceramic and Crystal cartridge specs. Still working on it. There's such a lot of information, it is taking a while! I've got nearly all the BSRs done, which is the lion's share. Also quite a few Acos, need to finish the Sonotones. The 2509/3509/3559 series is a bit more complicated as there are Garrard and Pinnacle equivalents, so I need to check a lot of data to try and be sure all equivalents are listed correctly. Watch this space. And thanks too Alex for the info, very useful. __________________ Regards, Ben.

27th Sep 2015, 6:52 pm	#13
jonnybear Octode Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Cullompton, Devon, UK. Posts: 1,434	Re: Ceramic and Crystal cartridge specs. I have quite a few details in a book published in 1964. do you mean Acos HGP33-1?. john Attached Thumbnails

6th Nov 2015, 2:42 am	#15
mally1956 Retired Dormant Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Brighton, West Sussex, UK. Posts: 154	Re: Ceramic and Crystal cartridge specs. Nice work Ben !

6th Nov 2015, 8:22 am	#16
Nickthedentist Dekatron Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oxford, UK. Posts: 17,559	Re: Ceramic and Crystal cartridge specs. Superb, Ben, just what we've been waiting for. N.

6th Nov 2015, 8:48 am	#17
Bobdger Hexode Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Rustington, West Sussex, UK. Posts: 369	Re: Ceramic and Crystal cartridge specs. Thanks Ben.

6th Nov 2015, 9:20 pm	#19
Norman Raeburn Heptode Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Leven, Fife, Scotland Posts: 791	Re: Ceramic and Crystal cartridge specs. Hi Ben, Thanks to you and all who helped, I have saved a copy for future reference. Norman

6th Nov 2015, 10:01 pm	#20
D_S_J_R Heptode Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Suffolk Coastal, UK. Posts: 601	Re: Ceramic and Crystal cartridge specs. Well done Ben! The Acos GP96-1 was tracked by Hacker at 5g (if that's any help). __________________ Best wishes, Dave