Pageant Model T1716 valve line-up - UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum

A_W_TYE · 21st Apr 2006, 4:43 pm

Hi Everybody

Does any one know, where I might be able to get a circuit diagram
for the above mentioned television .

Many Thanks.
Alan.

dazzlevision · 21st Apr 2006, 8:21 pm

Hello,

"Pageant" was the brand name used by the Scottish Co-operative Societies. The English Co-ops used "Defiant". They will probably have a Plessey made chassis in them (after around 1966, they would have Rank Bush Murphy innards).

The only Pageant sets I have been able to look up have model numbers starting with a "P".

Unless anyone else knows the set you have, perhaps it would help to post some details of it, such as: CRT type and make, valve types and is the set Band 1 & Band 3 (BBC/ITV) or an early Band 1 (BBC) only type?

Regards,

Dazzlevision

A_W_TYE · 21st Apr 2006, 9:24 pm

Quote
Perhaps it would help to post some details of it, such as: CRT type and make, valve types and is the set Band 1 & Band 3 (BBC/ITV) or an early Band 1 (BBC) only type?

Regards,

Dazzlevision[/quote]

The tube has SBW Tubes Ltd type HW43-69 on it.
the valve line up consists of Eht rectifier ( U25 )
U191 , 30p4 Boost valves.
30F5 x 3
EF85
6D2
PCC84
PCF80
30PL1
ECL80
PY32

The set Has bands 1 & 3.

Best regards
Alan.

dazzlevision · 21st Apr 2006, 9:41 pm

Hello Alan,

The CRT and valve line-up dates the set around 1956-8, I would say. The valves are a mixture of Mullard and Mazda types, which I think was typical of Plessey designs at that time.

I'll have a look to see if I can identify the chassis. The CRT looks to be a replacement of the original - probably a rebuilt type.

Regards,

Dazzlevision

dazzlevision · 21st Apr 2006, 10:02 pm

Hello,

The Defiant T1710, T1720 & T1760 have the same valve line-up as your set, apart from there being two ECL80 valves - have you missed one?

There is also a wired-in valve (3 wires) on the Line Output Transformer, a U25 - the EHT rectifier.

Looking at the rear of the set, the mains dropper resistor is at the rear above the line output transformer, there are two fuses in the middle at the rear and there are four preset controls at the front of the set, between the on-ff/volume/brightness controls (concentric knobs) and the channel selector/fine tuning knobs (concentric). There are also what appear to be two metal inverted "U" shaped metal brackets either side of the two fuses, with the PY32 valve under the right-hand one.

Does this fit your set?

Dazzlevision

21st Apr 2006, 4:43 pm	#1
A_W_TYE Pentode Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Seaton Delaval, Northumberland, UK. Posts: 181	Pageant Model T1716 valve line-up Hi Everybody Does any one know, where I might be able to get a circuit diagram for the above mentioned television . Many Thanks. Alan.

21st Apr 2006, 8:21 pm	#2
dazzlevision Dekatron Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Near Swindon, North Wiltshire, UK. Posts: 3,621	Re: Pageant Model T1716 Hello, "Pageant" was the brand name used by the Scottish Co-operative Societies. The English Co-ops used "Defiant". They will probably have a Plessey made chassis in them (after around 1966, they would have Rank Bush Murphy innards). The only Pageant sets I have been able to look up have model numbers starting with a "P". Unless anyone else knows the set you have, perhaps it would help to post some details of it, such as: CRT type and make, valve types and is the set Band 1 & Band 3 (BBC/ITV) or an early Band 1 (BBC) only type? Regards, Dazzlevision

21st Apr 2006, 9:24 pm	#3
A_W_TYE Pentode Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Seaton Delaval, Northumberland, UK. Posts: 181	Re: Pageant Model T1716 Quote Perhaps it would help to post some details of it, such as: CRT type and make, valve types and is the set Band 1 & Band 3 (BBC/ITV) or an early Band 1 (BBC) only type? Regards, Dazzlevision[/quote] The tube has SBW Tubes Ltd type HW43-69 on it. the valve line up consists of Eht rectifier ( U25 ) U191 , 30p4 Boost valves. 30F5 x 3 EF85 6D2 PCC84 PCF80 30PL1 ECL80 PY32 The set Has bands 1 & 3. Best regards Alan.

21st Apr 2006, 9:41 pm	#4
dazzlevision Dekatron Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Near Swindon, North Wiltshire, UK. Posts: 3,621	Re: Pageant Model T1716 Hello Alan, The CRT and valve line-up dates the set around 1956-8, I would say. The valves are a mixture of Mullard and Mazda types, which I think was typical of Plessey designs at that time. I'll have a look to see if I can identify the chassis. The CRT looks to be a replacement of the original - probably a rebuilt type. Regards, Dazzlevision

21st Apr 2006, 10:02 pm	#5
dazzlevision Dekatron Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Near Swindon, North Wiltshire, UK. Posts: 3,621	Re: Pageant Model T1716 Hello, The Defiant T1710, T1720 & T1760 have the same valve line-up as your set, apart from there being two ECL80 valves - have you missed one? There is also a wired-in valve (3 wires) on the Line Output Transformer, a U25 - the EHT rectifier. Looking at the rear of the set, the mains dropper resistor is at the rear above the line output transformer, there are two fuses in the middle at the rear and there are four preset controls at the front of the set, between the on-ff/volume/brightness controls (concentric knobs) and the channel selector/fine tuning knobs (concentric). There are also what appear to be two metal inverted "U" shaped metal brackets either side of the two fuses, with the PY32 valve under the right-hand one. Does this fit your set? Dazzlevision