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9th Nov 2013, 10:55 pm | #1 |
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Ringing a Trimphone on Stage
Hi guys. I looking to make a trimphone to ring for a stageplay here in jersey channel islands.
so i'm asking, What current and voltage in need to make it ring/worble on cue for the play ? thanks mike wynes. Jersey, channel islands. U.K. Moved from here: https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/...ad.php?t=84242 Last edited by AC/HL; 10th Nov 2013 at 11:44 pm. Reason: Thread split |
10th Nov 2013, 12:36 pm | #2 |
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Re: Old 700/PYE telephone system help
Hi, the only way you are likely to get a Trimphone to ring is using either an external AC supply of over 50 volts or by obtaining a hand generator such as one of these or a ringing generator 2A
You may be able to obtain either of the above generators from eBay or similar but they aren't that commonly available. Depending on your electronic/electrical expertise a transformer salvaged from an older video recorder should have a suitable 50 Volt winding which should operate the Trimphone tone caller satisfactorily, although at the incorrect frequency. The official ringing current is 75 Volts at 25Hz but using 50 volts at 50Hz is hardly likely to be an issue in your case. Regards Andrew |
10th Nov 2013, 6:36 pm | #3 | |
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Re: Old 700/PYE telephone system help
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I think the BT Lineman's Field Telephone type 286 can make a trimphone ring if you connect it to the Line terminals on the 286 and press 'Ring'. Example of a 286A here. You can even have a two-way conversation between the two handsets without needing an exchange. However, this is overkill really, as it's a stage play, the trimphone doesn't actually have to work. A far easier method is to play a tape recording of a trimphone ringing when required in the play. |
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10th Nov 2013, 6:54 pm | #4 | |
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Re: Old 700/PYE telephone system help
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10th Nov 2013, 11:12 pm | #5 |
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Re: Old 700/PYE telephone system help
Rather than a tape recording - which I have found to be difficult to get the timing right when used as a stage sound effect - I find that connecting the computer sound output to the stage sound system to play the WAV directly gives a more satisfactory result.
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10th Nov 2013, 11:16 pm | #6 |
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Re: Old 700/PYE telephone system help
And the cadence will sound right, they never do when manually rung.
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11th Nov 2013, 12:15 pm | #7 |
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Re: Ringing a Trimphone on Stage
Take a look at this page:
http://tinyurl.com/caxtk2e Probably one of the easiest way to get it working for a limited amount of money. dsk |
11th Nov 2013, 1:58 pm | #8 |
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Re: Ringing a Trimphone on Stage
I did something similar just by running a long extension lead out to the tent where I wanted the 'phone to ring, then calling it from my mobile. You have to rehearse it, because there's a gap between pressing 'call', and the instrument actually ringing.
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12th Nov 2013, 7:51 pm | #9 |
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Re: Ringing a Trimphone on Stage
In Canada, we used to have Nortel phones, and many had a ring tone selector. Once selected, pressing the volume bar, on hook, made the phone ring. This would work if the phone's mains transformer was plugged in. The last time our cohort needed a telephone to ring in a video performance we used a "Telephone Duck" which had its own cadence.
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13th Nov 2013, 12:28 am | #10 |
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Re: Ringing a Trimphone on Stage
What you need is a Magenta Box
Many phones with electronic ringers (i.e., not bells) could be made to ring by applying 36V DC (four PP3s in series) across pins (2 and 3 together) and 5 of the BT plug.
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