1950's HMV RECORD PLAYER identification. (HMV 2009)

[112stereo]

I have been given a HMV record player from the 50's thats been stored in a cupboard for at least 30 years.
The power /volume control is missing, there is no model number anywhere.
Does anyone reconise it?
I would love a circuit diagram so i can restore it properly.
I have stripped the deck and set it up and it works a treat, the cartridge was dead so found a replacement.
Now my attention to the amp which has some dodgy caps in it plus a burnt out resistor, hence tge need for a circuit diagram.
Can anyone help please.

[Cobaltblue]

Hi

Possibly a 2009

https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/hismasters_2009.html

Service info here: https://www.service-data.com/product...3/12587/m18963

Cheers

Mike T

[112stereo]

Very many thanks for that much appreciated.
Now perhaps i can fix it.

[Edward Huggins]

The cartridge as shown in your photos is a Mono turnover type - so be careful what type of LP records you play on it!

[112stereo]

I have since then replaced the cartridge with a stereo one, wired mono, but i think i will just use it for 45's if i can get the amp working. Got a circuit thanks to cobaltblue but still no sound. Don't get much free time at the moment so will need to go through the amp in stages changing the caps.

[Edward Huggins]

Your fault as described is somewhat confusing. What does "power/volume control missing" mean? - I can see that it's still there.

[112stereo]

The volume control in the picture is my replacement, but can anyone tell me what value the caps should be ? Most are broken so new ones will need to be fitted, but i can't work out if they should be pf or uf from the diagram.

[Edward Huggins]

If you have excessive hum, that long trailing lead to the rear "stereo" socket (which you will not be needing) could be a possible culprit.

[Station X]

Some of the capacitors, especially around the tone and volume controls, are shown as μμ(F) (note the double μ symbols) which is the same as picofarads. Other values such as that for C6 and C8 are in μF.

[peter_sol]

Those caps around d the input and tone control circuit are unlikely to need replacement.

[112stereo]

Unfortunately when someone removed the original volume control they damaged the caps and renderer them useless, hence the need to replace them.
Thank you for your help.

[Sideband]

uuF is the American pF so something marked as 470uuF is the same as 470pF. I think there were a few British companies that used uuF for a short time.

[112stereo]

I now have it up and running good amount of volume and the tone control has quite a good range, however, the bass control does nothing ?
I am not expecting a lot of difference, but something should happen !
The control itsself is ok and so are the resistors its c3 i am questioning, what value do you think it should be it just says .003 ?
Any ideas please ?

[Sideband]

In that position, it's got to be .003uF! Same as 3000pF. Nearest modern replacement is .0033uF or 3300pF.

[Station X]

The lack of a suffix shows that C3 is 0.003uF by default.

0.003uuF or 0.003pF is a ridiculously low valve. You'd never be able to buy one!

[112stereo]

Is there anything you can recommend please. Just had a closer look and the lead is broken right up to the body so i can't get a solder connection on it.

[Station X]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/284368955378

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/284368966683

Other sources available. Just use Google.

[112stereo]

Many thanks for that.
I have placed an order.

[112stereo]

Thank you everyone, its finished !
A local museum has shown interest in it as a working model so i am letting them have it . ����