Civilian Receiver Cabinet (and other bits) - UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum

RobinBirch · 30th Oct 2007, 11:58 am

Hi,
I've pulled a civilian set out of the round tuit pile and have some questions.

Firstly, the decal on the top of the cabinet is very grubby. Is there any way that I can clean this up?
Secondly, can I preserve the decal whilst cleaning up the set for refinishing?
Thirday, a more general question. How do I determine what version of the set is this and where can I find a circuit/description for it. It has a serial number U20 11676.

All help gratefully received.

Cheers

Robin

Darren-UK · 30th Oct 2007, 12:21 pm

Code U20 says it's a McMichael.

On the other points, there's been numerous threads on the WCR cabinet in the past including this one. Not too sure if there's been anything specific about cleaning the existing label though; most people, including myself, seem to produce a replacement.

RobinBirch · 30th Oct 2007, 12:25 pm

Thanks for that. What did your reproduced one come out like?

Robin

Darren-UK · 30th Oct 2007, 1:26 pm

Hi Robin,

I've attached a image of the label I made for my WCR. Please note, however, that I made a serious error in that the corners of the black border should have a radius. My image is slightly out of focus but gives a clear idea of what it looks like.

We once had a lengthy thread on the WCR label and reproductions thereof. However, I deleted it as part of the archiving procedure a long time ago. Why?....many of the images vanished for some reason, opinions differed too greatly regarding font style and dimensions...etc etc. There was also reference to a 'professionally' produced repro label which, sadly, had a serious spelling error. 'Receiver' was mispelt, as I recall.

This thread is still young, so I'd hang on a bit longer to see if anyone has any tips for cleaning your existing label. Failing that, make a repro but take onboard the advice given in the thread which I gave a link to earlier regarding cabinet finish.

Meantime I'll put out a request for members to post images of their own repro, or good original, labels then see if I can cobble together some sort of reference for the forum archives..........

If any members would oblige with this, please post your images (and other details concerning the label) in this thread and I will edit/sort it out in due course. Thanks in advance.

RobinBirch · 30th Oct 2007, 1:40 pm

Thanks Darren,
Your image is very interesting. Mine is gold with red lettering. I guess there were loads of different types.

I'll hang on to the thread

.

Has anyone got a circuit?

Robin

Paul Stenning · 30th Oct 2007, 1:45 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobinBirch

Has anyone got a circuit?

Yes. Click the advert in the top right corner.

Paul_RK · 30th Oct 2007, 2:47 pm

Here's the label from my Solectric mains model (according to the lists I've seen they only made battery sets, but that's by-the-bye: the U41 chassis stamp couldn't be clearer). Far from perfect, but it gives an idea of the (or an?) original font.

Paul

RobinBirch · 30th Oct 2007, 3:05 pm

I think that confirms it, they are all different. I guess each supplier had to make their own so they did what they fancied within the guidelines that the government gave them.

Robin

Leon Crampin · 30th Oct 2007, 4:22 pm

My U12 (Burndept) has the original label in fairly good condition. It's identical to Paul_RK's thumbnail other than for colour (slight difference), which would be subject to fading, polish and any other ravages of time. I suspect these labels might well have been "centrally" supplied - many things were in war time.

Leon.

RobinBirch · 30th Oct 2007, 5:09 pm

Hi Leon,
They may well have been but I have in the short space of this thread seen three completely different ones (including my own). The only common thread is the three rows of words that are the same and possibly the type font. The colour (both fore and background) and the border (present - not present) are all different in each one.

Robin

Radio_Dave · 30th Oct 2007, 5:12 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by darren-uk

Meantime I'll put out a request for members to post images of their own repro, or good original, labels then see if I can cobble together some sort of reference for the forum archives..........

Here's one I made for an earlier thread

David

RobinBirch · 30th Oct 2007, 5:16 pm

That's mine

. What did you print it out on?

Robin

Radio_Dave · 30th Oct 2007, 5:24 pm

I don't have a Civilian Receiver so I've never printed it. I made it for an earlier thread and out of boredom

David

RobinBirch · 30th Oct 2007, 5:29 pm

Oh ok, Is it in a printable form or a file that you could send to me?

Cheers

Robin

Radio_Dave · 30th Oct 2007, 5:39 pm

Hi Robin,

The quality of the posted image has not been reduced in any way, so you can use that.

I've written the, total, printable size on the bottom right. Just make sure it doesn't need resizing before you print it

Regards
David

Darren-UK · 30th Oct 2007, 5:52 pm

Has anyone else seen one of these labels with black font ? When I made mine (see post #4 above) I simply copied what was already there with regard to font style and colouring.

peter.sables · 7th Dec 2007, 12:42 pm

hi

Well the label on mine looks as though it has red lettering with gold background... but cannot read it, it is red though.

The cabinet cleaned up really well and now looks new. but inside rust is the main problem.

Pete

peter.sables · 7th Dec 2007, 11:19 pm

This is my radio!

pete

30th Oct 2007, 11:58 am	#1
RobinBirch Hexode Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cotswolds, UK. Posts: 465	Civilian Receiver Cabinet (and other bits) Hi, I've pulled a civilian set out of the round tuit pile and have some questions. Firstly, the decal on the top of the cabinet is very grubby. Is there any way that I can clean this up? Secondly, can I preserve the decal whilst cleaning up the set for refinishing? Thirday, a more general question. How do I determine what version of the set is this and where can I find a circuit/description for it. It has a serial number U20 11676. All help gratefully received. Cheers Robin

30th Oct 2007, 12:21 pm	#2
Darren-UK Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Blackpool, Lancashire, UK. Posts: 4,061	Re: Civilian Receiver Cabinet (and other bits) Code U20 says it's a McMichael. On the other points, there's been numerous threads on the WCR cabinet in the past including this one. Not too sure if there's been anything specific about cleaning the existing label though; most people, including myself, seem to produce a replacement.

30th Oct 2007, 12:25 pm	#3
RobinBirch Hexode Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cotswolds, UK. Posts: 465	Re: Civilian Receiver Cabinet (and other bits) Thanks for that. What did your reproduced one come out like? Robin

30th Oct 2007, 1:40 pm	#5
RobinBirch Hexode Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cotswolds, UK. Posts: 465	Re: Civilian Receiver Cabinet (and other bits) Thanks Darren, Your image is very interesting. Mine is gold with red lettering. I guess there were loads of different types. I'll hang on to the thread . Has anyone got a circuit? Robin

30th Oct 2007, 2:47 pm	#7
Paul_RK Dekatron Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Fakenham, Norfolk, UK. Posts: 4,259	Re: Civilian Receiver Cabinet (and other bits) Here's the label from my Solectric mains model (according to the lists I've seen they only made battery sets, but that's by-the-bye: the U41 chassis stamp couldn't be clearer). Far from perfect, but it gives an idea of the (or an?) original font. Paul Attached Thumbnails

30th Oct 2007, 1:26 pm	#4
Darren-UK Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Blackpool, Lancashire, UK. Posts: 4,061	Re: Civilian Receiver Cabinet (and other bits) Hi Robin, I've attached a image of the label I made for my WCR. Please note, however, that I made a serious error in that the corners of the black border should have a radius. My image is slightly out of focus but gives a clear idea of what it looks like. We once had a lengthy thread on the WCR label and reproductions thereof. However, I deleted it as part of the archiving procedure a long time ago. Why?....many of the images vanished for some reason, opinions differed too greatly regarding font style and dimensions...etc etc. There was also reference to a 'professionally' produced repro label which, sadly, had a serious spelling error. 'Receiver' was mispelt, as I recall. This thread is still young, so I'd hang on a bit longer to see if anyone has any tips for cleaning your existing label. Failing that, make a repro but take onboard the advice given in the thread which I gave a link to earlier regarding cabinet finish. Meantime I'll put out a request for members to post images of their own repro, or good original, labels then see if I can cobble together some sort of reference for the forum archives.......... If any members would oblige with this, please post your images (and other details concerning the label) in this thread and I will edit/sort it out in due course. Thanks in advance. Attached Thumbnails

30th Oct 2007, 3:05 pm	#8
RobinBirch Hexode Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cotswolds, UK. Posts: 465	Re: Civilian Receiver Cabinet (and other bits) I think that confirms it, they are all different. I guess each supplier had to make their own so they did what they fancied within the guidelines that the government gave them. Robin

30th Oct 2007, 4:22 pm	#9
Leon Crampin Octode Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Surrey, UK. Posts: 1,874	Re: Civilian Receiver Cabinet (and other bits) My U12 (Burndept) has the original label in fairly good condition. It's identical to Paul_RK's thumbnail other than for colour (slight difference), which would be subject to fading, polish and any other ravages of time. I suspect these labels might well have been "centrally" supplied - many things were in war time. Leon.

30th Oct 2007, 5:09 pm	#10
RobinBirch Hexode Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cotswolds, UK. Posts: 465	Re: Civilian Receiver Cabinet (and other bits) Hi Leon, They may well have been but I have in the short space of this thread seen three completely different ones (including my own). The only common thread is the three rows of words that are the same and possibly the type font. The colour (both fore and background) and the border (present - not present) are all different in each one. Robin

30th Oct 2007, 5:16 pm	#12
RobinBirch Hexode Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cotswolds, UK. Posts: 465	Re: Civilian Receiver Cabinet (and other bits) That's mine . What did you print it out on? Robin

30th Oct 2007, 5:24 pm	#13
Radio_Dave Nonode Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK. Posts: 2,543	Re: Civilian Receiver Cabinet (and other bits) I don't have a Civilian Receiver so I've never printed it. I made it for an earlier thread and out of boredom David

30th Oct 2007, 5:29 pm	#14
RobinBirch Hexode Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cotswolds, UK. Posts: 465	Re: Civilian Receiver Cabinet (and other bits) Oh ok, Is it in a printable form or a file that you could send to me? Cheers Robin

30th Oct 2007, 5:39 pm	#15
Radio_Dave Nonode Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK. Posts: 2,543	Re: Civilian Receiver Cabinet (and other bits) Hi Robin, The quality of the posted image has not been reduced in any way, so you can use that. I've written the, total, printable size on the bottom right. Just make sure it doesn't need resizing before you print it Regards David

30th Oct 2007, 5:52 pm	#16
Darren-UK Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Blackpool, Lancashire, UK. Posts: 4,061	Re: Civilian Receiver Cabinet (and other bits) Has anyone else seen one of these labels with black font ? When I made mine (see post #4 above) I simply copied what was already there with regard to font style and colouring.

7th Dec 2007, 12:42 pm	#17
peter.sables Rest in Peace Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Doncaster, South Yorkshire, UK. Posts: 385	Re: Civilian Receiver Cabinet (and other bits) hi Well the label on mine looks as though it has red lettering with gold background... but cannot read it, it is red though. The cabinet cleaned up really well and now looks new. but inside rust is the main problem. Pete Last edited by Darren-UK; 7th Dec 2007 at 5:07 pm. Reason: Comments on WCR electrics removed, please post these in correct forum section.

7th Dec 2007, 11:19 pm	#18
peter.sables Rest in Peace Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Doncaster, South Yorkshire, UK. Posts: 385	Re: Civilian Receiver Cabinet (and other bits) This is my radio! pete Attached Thumbnails