UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Powered By Google Custom Search Vintage Radio Service Data

Go Back   UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum > General Vintage Technology > Components and Circuits

Notices

Components and Circuits For discussions about component types, alternatives and availability, circuit configurations and modifications etc. Discussions here should be of a general nature and not about specific sets.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 16th Oct 2019, 1:29 pm   #1
Wendymott
Heptode
 
Wendymott's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, UK.
Posts: 968
Default IC Marking

Hi Peeps..... Please do not think I am telling you erstwhile members how to suck eggs... but it occurred to me today, the difficulty of reading some IC markings, in my case with a bench magnifier AND a monocular eye piece.
I had just bought some 8V and 9V 3 pin regulators.
With minimal storage space left to segregate these items.."Light bulb" moment.. felt tip pen..it will not harm the thermal properties...
Thus they are combined in one sector without confusion
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	VREG 1.jpg
Views:	105
Size:	55.8 KB
ID:	192017   Click image for larger version

Name:	VREG2.jpg
Views:	104
Size:	52.2 KB
ID:	192018  
__________________
Should get out more.

Regards
Wendy G8BZY
Wendymott is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th Oct 2019, 1:37 pm   #2
Nuvistor
Dekatron
 
Nuvistor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Wigan, Greater Manchester, UK.
Posts: 7,202
Default Re: IC Marking

Nice and neat.

I find if something is too small to see the writing I take a photo with the phone and enlarge it, usually works without any eye strain. All done in the phone.
__________________
Frank
Nuvistor is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 16th Oct 2019, 2:00 pm   #3
Argus25
Nonode
 
Argus25's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Maroochydore, Queensland, Australia.
Posts: 2,434
Default Re: IC Marking

A really useful hand tool to have on the electronic workbench is an Otoscope.

These were designed to be inserted into the external acoustic meatus to view the Tympanic membrane. They provide a glare free lighting and a good level of magnification with a magnifying lens over the viewing window.

Typically they run from 2 AA cells (the cheap ones) and have either an LED illumination or a "lens end bulb" in them. They provide a great hand tool to use to pick up to examine IC, markings or other surfaces, for many repairs/inspections. I discovered this more or less by accident, that they were a great electronics workshop tool, even though not intended for the application.

The prices of these have dropped down really low over the years, I just looked and saw one like this:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mini-Otosco...IAAOSwOxJdn39V

But there must be many more examples on the usual auction sites.
Argus25 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th Oct 2019, 2:34 pm   #4
G8HQP Dave
Dekatron
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Solihull, West Midlands, UK.
Posts: 4,860
Default Re: IC Marking

Yes, I often struggle to read tiny mid-grey or brown writing on a dark grey background. I find that a magnifying glass and daylight can help, and find the best orientation by experiment.
G8HQP Dave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th Oct 2019, 3:00 pm   #5
Nickthedentist
Dekatron
 
Nickthedentist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Oxford, UK.
Posts: 14,432
Default Re: IC Marking

I agree.

The digital macro function on my 10 year-old Canon compact camera is amazing. The same model can be had for a fiver on eBay now if you're lucky.

The direction of the lighting is crucial too. I find shining my LED dental curing light almost along (rather than perpendicular) to the surface, then using the macro on the camera gives easy to read results almost every time.

N.
Nickthedentist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th Oct 2019, 3:11 pm   #6
G6Tanuki
Dekatron
 
G6Tanuki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Wiltshire, UK.
Posts: 7,774
Default Re: IC Marking

Ultra-violet light (from one of those handheld 'fraudulent banknote detector things shops used to have a few decades back) can also provide a useful reveal.

[This sometimes helps too with the faded writing on valve envelopes].
G6Tanuki is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th Oct 2019, 4:23 pm   #7
AC/HL
Moderator
 
AC/HL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Heckmondwike, West Yorkshire, UK.
Posts: 7,576
Default Re: IC Marking

Search UV torch on eBay or Amazon
__________________
Bill, BVWS member
AC/HL is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 16th Oct 2019, 4:31 pm   #8
Wendymott
Heptode
 
Wendymott's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, UK.
Posts: 968
Default Re: IC Marking

Thanks for the comments and recommendations peeps
__________________
Should get out more.

Regards
Wendy G8BZY
Wendymott is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th Oct 2019, 7:45 pm   #9
Diabolical Artificer
Dekatron
 
Diabolical Artificer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Sleaford, Lincs. UK.
Posts: 4,662
Default Re: IC Marking

Good idea Wendy, I sometimes use my daughter's nail varnish to mark different hfe on trannies like BC456A/B/C. She gets lot's as unwanted gift's in myriad colour's, saves lot's of different bags; just have to mark the bag with a little key, EG red A, blue B, green with sparkles C.

"A really useful hand tool to have on the electronic workbench is an Otoscope." I agree. I got mine out of a hospital skip years ago. It's great for seeing in out of the way corners, checking down holes etc.

Polaroid glasses can help ID hard to see IC/tranny numbers too, just a matter of getting them at the right angle.

Andy.
__________________
Curiosity hasn't killed this cat...so far.
Diabolical Artificer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th Oct 2019, 11:51 pm   #10
Maarten
Nonode
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Haarlem, Netherlands
Posts: 2,604
Default Re: IC Marking

I use an older version with glass lenses of this pocket magnifying glass: https://www.opticsplanet.com/zeiss-o...ifier-d36.html

I do agree that the macro setting on a camera can be very useful as well. I have one that performs decently under low light conditions.

Last edited by Maarten; 16th Oct 2019 at 11:59 pm.
Maarten is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17th Oct 2019, 12:25 am   #11
Oldcodger
Octode
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: West Midlands, UK.
Posts: 1,414
Default Re: IC Marking

These days when I keep them in a bag and mark the bag for type. For singles I use a Sharpie pen and mark the type on the TAB(e;g 7805 or +05with the current suffix) when I get them.
Helps if you have a mix of both + and - regulators. As + and - terminal regulators have differing pinouts, you could also mark the tab with +/-05( current suffix) and mark the common with black ink at the top.
For a quick voltage check, I use an old Panasonic 4 pin connector with wires connected to the socket and a meter on the output. A 78/79 device plugs nicely into this and it's quick and easy to check the device.
Oldcodger is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 11:28 pm.


All information and advice on this forum is subject to the WARNING AND DISCLAIMER located at https://www.vintage-radio.net/rules.html.
Failure to heed this warning may result in death or serious injury to yourself and/or others.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright ©2002 - 2019, Paul Stenning.