Help Identifying this box of gear - UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum

charliegi4fue · 31st May 2016, 4:45 pm

My friend showed me this last night, no idea what it is but looks interesting... any ideas out there?

Charlie

Herald1360 · 31st May 2016, 5:26 pm

Intruder detection system controller?

charliegi4fue · 31st May 2016, 6:03 pm

Could be Chris, but it has audio equipment and is attached to a mobile phone...a very old one, probably late 80's

Charlie

dseymo1 · 31st May 2016, 6:50 pm

Well Advanced Perimeter Systems is still in business, and specialises in security. I would guess that the phone calls 'control' and sends a pre-recorded message when a threat is detected.
Is a sensor of some sort evident?

Edit: The 'Open' and 'Short' cable alerts must be a clue - looks like their Flexiguard system, or a precursor.

charliegi4fue · 1st Jun 2016, 12:50 am

Hi Desymo

Nope, the whole unit is contained in a heavy duty travel case... looks to be a portable unit...if it's of any help, It has crows feet on the outside of the travel case

Charlie

Lucien Nunes · 1st Jun 2016, 10:35 am

Perhaps a rep's demonstration unit for the system?

paulsherwin · 1st Jun 2016, 11:08 am

Given it's in NI, could it be some sort of Army Intelligence bugging system from the Troubles? It looks a bit Heath Robinson for that though.

Welsh Anorak · 1st Jun 2016, 2:31 pm

Hi
It says 'Moblie Detection Unit' - could that mean moblie phone rather than portable? Might it be for detecting analogue mobile phone transmissions and recording them?

Radio Wrangler · 1st Jun 2016, 3:15 pm

The digital voice recorder holds a spoken message. The other box is some kind of intrusion detector and when triggered uses the mobile phone to send the message to the preset number. The whole thing is packed in a suitcase so it can be taken to some venue to be protected and set-up.

Just guessing

David

Sean Williams · 1st Jun 2016, 9:16 pm

Looks a lot like a very early autodialler.

Record a message, and in the event of the protected circuit being broken it calls a preset number and plays the message to the intended recipient.

Heatercathodeshort · 2nd Jun 2016, 8:45 am

The intended recipient would probably be your pussy cat. The idea was to set it up near the cat basket and send soothing messages to your furry friend while you sip nasty coloured drinks on some far away beach. Of course I could be wrong..John.

ukcol · 2nd Jun 2016, 8:51 am

I think you're wrong John, there's no "paws" button.

Heatercathodeshort · 2nd Jun 2016, 9:43 pm

Oh yes! What a clever lot you are on this Forum. I can't catch you out anymore..John.

julie_m · 3rd Jun 2016, 11:17 pm

Could it be a temporary system, for short-term use in a building while the existing burglar alarm system is out of commission for maintenance, upgrade or repair?

It definitely looks like some kind of security thing, and the voice recorder and phone fit with that idea. Maybe the idea was that a high-end alarm company loaned you one of these devices to keep your premises protected while they were installing one of their permanent systems?

Radio Wrangler · 4th Jun 2016, 9:38 am

The crows feet on the outside of the case are a strong suggestion that it's something the military used as a portable intruder alarm. Perhaps they searched a hotel conference room looking for things that shouldn't be there, then used this to make sure no-one came along later to add anything without them knowing.

David

duncanlowe · 6th Jun 2016, 9:36 pm

I have come across a portable system, though much later (early noughties). It was used to protect a parked up truck with a prototype car in it from nosey parkers. So there have probably been uses for that kind of thing for ever.

Andrew B · 7th Jun 2016, 3:52 pm

I have seen them units before, Julie_m is right on the nail, it's a portable intruder detector/alarm.

31st May 2016, 4:45 pm	#1
charliegi4fue Triode Join Date: May 2016 Location: Carrickfergus, County Antrim, Northern Ireland, UK. Posts: 10	Help Identifying this box of gear My friend showed me this last night, no idea what it is but looks interesting... any ideas out there? Charlie Attached Thumbnails

31st May 2016, 5:26 pm	#2
Herald1360 Dekatron Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Leominster, Herefordshire, UK. Posts: 16,536	Re: Help Identifying this box of gear Intruder detection system controller? __________________ ....__________ ....\|____\|\|__\|__\_____ .=.\| _---\__\|__\|_---_\|. .........O..Chris....O

31st May 2016, 6:03 pm	#3
charliegi4fue Triode Join Date: May 2016 Location: Carrickfergus, County Antrim, Northern Ireland, UK. Posts: 10	Re: Help Identifying this box of gear Could be Chris, but it has audio equipment and is attached to a mobile phone...a very old one, probably late 80's Charlie

31st May 2016, 6:50 pm	#4
dseymo1 Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Shropshire, UK. Posts: 3,051	Re: Help Identifying this box of gear Well Advanced Perimeter Systems is still in business, and specialises in security. I would guess that the phone calls 'control' and sends a pre-recorded message when a threat is detected. Is a sensor of some sort evident? Edit: The 'Open' and 'Short' cable alerts must be a clue - looks like their Flexiguard system, or a precursor. Last edited by dseymo1; 31st May 2016 at 6:56 pm.

1st Jun 2016, 12:50 am	#5
charliegi4fue Triode Join Date: May 2016 Location: Carrickfergus, County Antrim, Northern Ireland, UK. Posts: 10	Re: Help Identifying this box of gear Hi Desymo Nope, the whole unit is contained in a heavy duty travel case... looks to be a portable unit...if it's of any help, It has crows feet on the outside of the travel case Charlie

1st Jun 2016, 10:35 am	#6
Lucien Nunes Rest in Peace Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: London, UK. Posts: 2,508	Re: Help Identifying this box of gear Perhaps a rep's demonstration unit for the system?

1st Jun 2016, 11:08 am	#7
paulsherwin Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 27,970	Re: Help Identifying this box of gear Given it's in NI, could it be some sort of Army Intelligence bugging system from the Troubles? It looks a bit Heath Robinson for that though.

1st Jun 2016, 2:31 pm	#8
Welsh Anorak Dekatron Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: North Wales, UK. Posts: 6,927	Re: Help Identifying this box of gear Hi It says 'Moblie Detection Unit' - could that mean moblie phone rather than portable? Might it be for detecting analogue mobile phone transmissions and recording them?

1st Jun 2016, 3:15 pm	#9
Radio Wrangler Moderator Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Fife, Scotland, UK. Posts: 22,902	Re: Help Identifying this box of gear The digital voice recorder holds a spoken message. The other box is some kind of intrusion detector and when triggered uses the mobile phone to send the message to the preset number. The whole thing is packed in a suitcase so it can be taken to some venue to be protected and set-up. Just guessing David __________________ Can't afford the volcanic island yet, but the plans for my monorail and the goons' uniforms are done

1st Jun 2016, 9:16 pm	#10
Sean Williams Dekatron Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: St.Ippolyts, Hitchin, Hertfordshire QRA IO91UW Posts: 3,518	Re: Help Identifying this box of gear Looks a lot like a very early autodialler. Record a message, and in the event of the protected circuit being broken it calls a preset number and plays the message to the intended recipient. __________________ Engineers make things work and have spare bits when finished

2nd Jun 2016, 8:45 am	#11
Heatercathodeshort Dekatron Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Warnham, West Sussex. 10 miles south of DORKING. Posts: 9,147	Re: Help Identifying this box of gear The intended recipient would probably be your pussy cat. The idea was to set it up near the cat basket and send soothing messages to your furry friend while you sip nasty coloured drinks on some far away beach. Of course I could be wrong..John.

2nd Jun 2016, 8:51 am	#12
ukcol Rest in Peace Join Date: May 2003 Location: Harlaxton, Lincolnshire, UK. Posts: 3,944	Re: Help Identifying this box of gear I think you're wrong John, there's no "paws" button.

2nd Jun 2016, 9:43 pm	#13
Heatercathodeshort Dekatron Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Warnham, West Sussex. 10 miles south of DORKING. Posts: 9,147	Re: Help Identifying this box of gear Oh yes! What a clever lot you are on this Forum. I can't catch you out anymore..John.

3rd Jun 2016, 11:17 pm	#14
julie_m Dekatron Join Date: May 2008 Location: Derby, UK. Posts: 7,735	Re: Help Identifying this box of gear Could it be a temporary system, for short-term use in a building while the existing burglar alarm system is out of commission for maintenance, upgrade or repair? It definitely looks like some kind of security thing, and the voice recorder and phone fit with that idea. Maybe the idea was that a high-end alarm company loaned you one of these devices to keep your premises protected while they were installing one of their permanent systems? __________________ If I have seen further than others, it is because I was standing on a pile of failed experiments.

4th Jun 2016, 9:38 am	#15
Radio Wrangler Moderator Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Fife, Scotland, UK. Posts: 22,902	Re: Help Identifying this box of gear The crows feet on the outside of the case are a strong suggestion that it's something the military used as a portable intruder alarm. Perhaps they searched a hotel conference room looking for things that shouldn't be there, then used this to make sure no-one came along later to add anything without them knowing. David __________________ Can't afford the volcanic island yet, but the plans for my monorail and the goons' uniforms are done

6th Jun 2016, 9:36 pm	#16
duncanlowe Nonode Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Stafford, Staffs. UK. Posts: 2,532	Re: Help Identifying this box of gear I have come across a portable system, though much later (early noughties). It was used to protect a parked up truck with a prototype car in it from nosey parkers. So there have probably been uses for that kind of thing for ever.

7th Jun 2016, 3:52 pm	#17
Andrew B Heptode Join Date: May 2015 Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire, UK. Posts: 512	Re: Help Identifying this box of gear I have seen them units before, Julie_m is right on the nail, it's a portable intruder detector/alarm. __________________ worried about the electrons entering the circuit and the smoke leaving Andrew