VE301W aerial and earth arrangements. - Page 2 - UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum

nightowl · 14th Dec 2019, 5:17 pm

BP here's a photo of the tag and 1 of the filter box.

nightowl · 14th Dec 2019, 6:23 pm

closer photos.....

bluepilot · 14th Dec 2019, 6:38 pm

OK, so as far as I can see the radio itself was manufactured by Jdeal Werke. As I and J as first letter of a word were interchangeable at the time, this would be Ideal Werke in modern German. The capacitor block was made by Loewe. Presumably Ideal bought it from Loewe. The Antenna selector/filter was made by Kaco. The other bit of the text says "VE Zubehör" = Volks Empfänger accessories.

Joe_Lorenz · 17th Dec 2019, 10:06 pm

Hello folks,

the key word for "Ideal" is "Blaupunkt". Why this? Read the story here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaupunkt

When I was a boy my granddad had a set he called "by Blaupunkt Ideal at Hildesheim" and yes, Blaupunkt belonged to Bosch. So it's no wonder we find Bosch capacitors there.

As previously mentioned, in older German texts you can read an I for J and vice versa depending on font used.

There is another fact I have learned regarding VE 301: Repairmen of the early days often used parts of different manufacture when one of these sets was on the bench as almost everything was interchangeable! So in the end it is no surprise finding an "Owin" chassis in a "Mende" cabinet.

Regards, Joe

nightowl · 18th Dec 2019, 2:31 pm

interesting link... danke Joe ;-)

Joe_Lorenz · 18th Dec 2019, 9:38 pm

One more short additional info: The Blaupunkt story is a drama with a sad ending. That's bad enough as some products were first-class and rock solid. Years ago I met a former Blaupunkt engineer who told me that in the early 80's he and his team had developed a prototype of a portable car navigation system. Presenting this to the executive board the reply was: "Nobody needs this and nobody would buy such a toy. Waste of money."
Joe

14th Dec 2019, 5:17 pm	#21
nightowl Triode Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Lanarkshire, Scotland, UK. Posts: 48	Re: VE301W aerial and earth arrangements. BP here's a photo of the tag and 1 of the filter box. Attached Thumbnails

14th Dec 2019, 6:23 pm	#22
nightowl Triode Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Lanarkshire, Scotland, UK. Posts: 48	Re: VE301W aerial and earth arrangements. closer photos..... Attached Thumbnails

14th Dec 2019, 6:38 pm	#23
bluepilot Heptode Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Duffort, Gers, France Posts: 714	Re: VE301W aerial and earth arrangements. OK, so as far as I can see the radio itself was manufactured by Jdeal Werke. As I and J as first letter of a word were interchangeable at the time, this would be Ideal Werke in modern German. The capacitor block was made by Loewe. Presumably Ideal bought it from Loewe. The Antenna selector/filter was made by Kaco. The other bit of the text says "VE Zubehör" = Volks Empfänger accessories. __________________ Stuart The golden age is always yesterday - Asa Briggs

17th Dec 2019, 10:06 pm	#24
Joe_Lorenz Hexode Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Hohenroda, Eastern Hesse, Germany Posts: 460	Re: VE301W aerial and earth arrangements. Hello folks, the key word for "Ideal" is "Blaupunkt". Why this? Read the story here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaupunkt When I was a boy my granddad had a set he called "by Blaupunkt Ideal at Hildesheim" and yes, Blaupunkt belonged to Bosch. So it's no wonder we find Bosch capacitors there. As previously mentioned, in older German texts you can read an I for J and vice versa depending on font used. There is another fact I have learned regarding VE 301: Repairmen of the early days often used parts of different manufacture when one of these sets was on the bench as almost everything was interchangeable! So in the end it is no surprise finding an "Owin" chassis in a "Mende" cabinet. Regards, Joe

18th Dec 2019, 2:31 pm	#25
nightowl Triode Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Lanarkshire, Scotland, UK. Posts: 48	Re: VE301W aerial and earth arrangements. interesting link... danke Joe ;-)

18th Dec 2019, 9:38 pm	#26
Joe_Lorenz Hexode Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Hohenroda, Eastern Hesse, Germany Posts: 460	Re: VE301W aerial and earth arrangements. One more short additional info: The Blaupunkt story is a drama with a sad ending. That's bad enough as some products were first-class and rock solid. Years ago I met a former Blaupunkt engineer who told me that in the early 80's he and his team had developed a prototype of a portable car navigation system. Presenting this to the executive board the reply was: "Nobody needs this and nobody would buy such a toy. Waste of money." Joe