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Old 2nd Apr 2019, 5:10 pm   #101
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Just realised the Repair shop is on again on BBC1 in the afternoons at 4.30 again, but not sure if its repeats as I missed it first time around.
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Old 2nd Apr 2019, 5:19 pm   #102
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Should be on I Player.
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Old 2nd Apr 2019, 5:35 pm   #103
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It is, I quite like it and record them (using get_iplayer) for later viewing. It is a bit set up, fun nevertheless, all the "players" are knowledgeable (sometimes the director lets this through) some almost cringe playing a dumb part (Jay Blades must know much more than he says). I hope it will encourage at least someone to give it a go.

I saw the radio and "corr that's the same as mine" is wasn't, mine is a Transistor 7, a rather nice set.
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Old 2nd Apr 2019, 6:06 pm   #104
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That looks like a wave wound coil in that GEC.

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Old 2nd Apr 2019, 6:54 pm   #105
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I don't think they're repeats. At least, the two I've seen so far have been new to me.

I thought today's leather rhino was hilarious - largely as a result of where the "closing seam" was located.
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Old 2nd Apr 2019, 7:40 pm   #106
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I thought the radio restoration on Monday was pathetic.
For a start, if it was of such sentimental value to the owner how could it have got into that state? He said he used it in the greenhouse, I think it must have been buried under the soil.
The restorer had to replace parts 'for safety reasons'! The only way that radio could be unsafe is if it was thrown at someone. And instead of giggling like schoolboys at 'pF', wouldn't it have been more instructive to explain what a capacitor was, and that capacitance is measured in Farads which subdivide into microfarads and picofarads. But that would been too technical for the producer to understand.
And just as the owner called to collect it and it was turned on, there happened to be a message to him broadcast by the local radio station...………….what a coincidence.
It wasn't actually demonstrated working in a believable way.
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My sentiments too Andy.I was also horrified at the state of a much loved radio.

Yes,I always called picro farads puffs, though certainly not thought it funny then or now.
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Old 2nd Apr 2019, 8:13 pm   #108
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Yes the radio restoration was cringe worthy and who needs to use a scope to see if a transistor oscillator is operating. The knob fitted to the tuning dial looked good and full marks for the small plastic pot lid for the dial cover. He could have done much better for the volume control knob though!

Hopefully the restorer {a forum member perhaps} was under heavy direction from the producers to ham it up.

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Old 2nd Apr 2019, 8:17 pm   #109
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And just as the owner called to collect it and it was turned on, there happened to be a message to him broadcast by the local radio station...………….what a coincidence.
It wasn't actually demonstrated working in a believable way.
I could not believe it, and had to rewind. The station was, Crystal FM ?
on a MW set. Maybe was not Crystal but definitely "FM"
I believe the set was a Transistor Severn BC505 from October 1961 with half the badge missing. The programme said it was 1950s.

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I'm glad it's not just me then.

Dire.

I stopped watching the earlier series when they described self-styled 'experts' as 'skilled craftsmen' and 'artisans'. In the last series a young chap billed as an 'antique restorer' was (allegedly) restoring a pipe rack. A brass ferrule was missing so the guy who is on the metalworking lathe turned a new ferrule. It was slightly oversized on a trial fit, so needed a smidgen to be taken off. The 'antique restorer' thought it could be made to fit into the delicate wooden pipe-rack by hammering it into the hole, with predictable results. Giggles all round, and out came the superglue to bodge it back together again.

In yesterday's episode, his task was to replace some missing rosewood veneer on the base of a skeleton clock. The original veneer would have been applied using hide glue. I think he used PVA, then instead of using fine sandpaper (no coarser than 320g) to blend it in with rest of the veneer, sanding with the grain, he used a sanding disc in an electric drill. I guess he then slapped a coat of Ronseal on rather than French polish. I'd lost interest by then.

Basically, it's just daytime TV light entertainment on a tight budget for the hard of thinking. One to miss.

Makes me realise how lucky I was to have grown up in an era when schools had well equipped woodworking and metalworking workshops and we were taught craft skills by committed and highly skilled craft teachers, followed by an apprenticeship, C&G exams, with 'pride in the job' imbued from an early age.
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Old 3rd Apr 2019, 7:52 am   #111
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They aren't repeats. We always record it as it's on when we're eating or cooking.
I do wish they wouldn't keep putting in clips that are from other parts of the series - pointless, confusing for the listeners and if they needed to, why not show more of the part currently shown?
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Old 3rd Apr 2019, 9:45 am   #112
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I think we’re in danger of being over-critical here. I’m interested in repair and restoration in general, not just radio, and a programme on BBC1 that features skilled people undertaking worthwhile repairs and challenging the throw-away culture has just got to be a good thing. I agree there are some shortcomings, but this programme is, for me, the only ‘must watch’ thing on TV just now.
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Old 3rd Apr 2019, 9:45 am   #113
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We've all seen the poor episodes whenever anything electrical is being dealt with and I just wonder if the clock chappie is seen as similarly inept in his world? To this non clock maker he certainly comes over as competent.

It could be such an interesting series but as has been said it is cheap entertainment for the masses, hence the emphasis on the human factor.
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Old 3rd Apr 2019, 9:58 am   #114
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According to the first aired dates on Virgin TiVo, series 4 is new. Started 1st April. I have just set my box to record them.
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Old 3rd Apr 2019, 10:23 am   #115
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I gave up on this when the clock guy took out an electric clock movement and without so much as a second glance condemned it as dangerous and replaced it with a battery movement. I seem to remember he has done that twice. That is not repair or restoration in my book.
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Old 3rd Apr 2019, 10:44 am   #116
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I have to admit that the electric clock (and to a lesser extent the earlier pillar telephone) were low points for me, but I generally agree with Phil that it is, on the whole, well worth watching, despite its shortcomings. The "clock man" would probably do better sticking to his area of expertise in clockwork mechanisms.

The general ethos that items can be worth repairing/restoring - and not just for profit motives - is something that should be applauded.
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Old 3rd Apr 2019, 10:45 am   #117
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Jay Blade also appears on 'Money for nothing'. On that program he looked at and rejected a record player with a BSR deck destined for the skip that looked in restorable condition. So double standards at work here. If it had been brought along to the repair shop they would have been all over it with stories about how it was a treasured item and had to be restored.
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Old 3rd Apr 2019, 10:58 am   #118
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Don't get me started on "Money for Nothing"! That BSR deck probably had a lucky escape from being "upcycled" in some ridiculous manner - which seems to be the usual fate of items I've seen on what little I've watched of MfN.
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Old 3rd Apr 2019, 11:33 am   #119
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We don't watch TV these days, and this thread reminds me of why. it's not the dumbing down of technical subjects which, although frustrating to those who have some knowledge, is really to be expected in mass-audience based programmes.

It's the repetitive nature and short attention span catering ways of repeating things 5 times and jumping from subject to subject like a frog on amphetamine...

Youtube is where I spend my screen-time these days & a lot of the videos I watch do tend to conform to the "slow TV" format mentioned earlier on, realtime or barely edited repair videos with technical content to the level the uploader chooses. I think that's where all the good "content" has gone to, driven by a passion for the subject rather than the need to make ratings/money.
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Just one question re this programme.
How does the clock man get all the brass items so clean and shiny? Are things taken to the buffing wheel off camera?
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