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Old 3rd Aug 2019, 7:54 pm   #1
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I found this in my house, it looks old and I can't find anything about it. I don't know if this is where I should post this. Be gentle if I am doing anything wrong.
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That's a standard BS1362 fuse for a BS1363 13A plug (they don't use the BS standard in the Republic but there is an identical Irish standard). BS1362 dates from 1947 so it may be as old as that. You can still use it if it isn't blown.
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Old 3rd Aug 2019, 8:08 pm   #3
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That's a standard BS1362 fuse for a BS1363 13A plug (they don't use the BS standard in the Republic but there is an identical Irish standard). BS1362 dates from 1947 so it may be as old as that. You can still use it if it isn't blown.
But what year was it made? Is holder a manufacturer? How old is it? Is there a way of dating it?
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13 Amp plug fuses are common as muck and nothing to get excited about. I have a bag full of them.

Holder probably is a manufacturer, but not one I've heard of. That fuse bears a British Standards Institute "Kite Mark", so it was probably made in the UK.

There may be some "Fuse Freaks" on here who can give you more info,
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They are seriously common in the UK including NI.
Perhaps it is from a plug that has been changed on an appliance that has been bought in the north and shipped south.
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Doesn't Ireland's version of the 13A plug have this same type fuse inside?
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The standard for plugs is IS401 and fuses are quoted in Irish legislation as BS1362 http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1.../made/en/print

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Is holder a manufacturer?...
Seems currently to be a brand mainly sold by, perhaps exclusive to, B&Q/Tradepoint.

https://www.diy.com/departments/elec.../N-95sZ1z13sto

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Doesn't Ireland's version of the 13A plug have this same type fuse inside?
In the north yes...not sure about south
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Ireland AFAIK has only ever had the same brands of fuses as the UK.
I'd always assumed all electrical fittings are imported. Probably from China and India now.

B&Q stores exist here. Irish Retail is actually dominated by UK owned chains often selling product only suitable for the UK Market. A survey in 2012 showed that most TVs, even in Irish owned shops, were UK imports that didn't work on an aerial for Irish DTT (All SD, ever, was MPEG4). Currys still sells gas cookers for bottle gas without a UK to Irish pipe adaptor. Irish pumping is Imperial, not Metric. For years Argos sold phones & faxes that didn't work here. Some RJ11 to BT adaptors don't work as they lack a capacitor. Argos STILL sells BT plug equipment here, but at least now includes an adaptor for free.

Most shops are full of ES fittings rather than BC, which is the common type used here, as used to be the case in the UK. Very hard to find a BC lamp in Tesco, Lidl, B&Q etc.

At least the mains plug sockets and plugs are the same, though German type and old UK 5A 3pin are still sold and used.

I'm sure I've seen Holden brand fuses.
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Doesn't Ireland's version of the 13A plug have this same type fuse inside?
There is no "Irish version" except as a standard on paper. The 13A plugs and associated fuses are exactly as sold in UK. Same makes.
Tesco, Aldi, Lidl, B&Q, Currys, Halfords, Homebase, Argos and all the locally owned shops and chains sell exactly the same electrical fittings as the UK.
Some Irish stores will have in addition the UK 5A 3 pin round plugs (M and BS546 moulded on) and the larger German plugs (Schuko?).

Our distribution panels have always been different to the UK type. Old ones use multiple sizes of cartridge in a screw in holder and newer are all trip switches. Neutral to earth spike at the meter. No ring mains, all spurs.
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BS1363 plugs fitted with BS1362 fuses. These are 3 Amp fuses. The 13 Amp versions are exactly the same size.
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Most shops are full of ES fittings rather than BC, which is the common type used here, as used to be the case in the UK. Very hard to find a BC lamp in Tesco, Lidl, B&Q etc.
Ah, but it's much the same here in the UK. An insidious attempt to rob us of our Bayonet Cap heritage.
I'd start one of those Downing Street petitions, but I fear it's far too late.
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In the early 1990's we spent a fortnight circumnavigating the Irish Republic visiting my wife's relatives. I noticed that the fuses sold in a general store in Granard seemed identical to the cheap unbranded ones we had bought in a street market in the UK in the early 1960's that are potential fire hazards: no sand filling and flimsy end caps that, when a short occurs, are easily breached by the arc that follows vaporisation of the fuse wire, allowing an arc to be established inside the plug. At least, that was what happened to us.

I had read that Schuko plugs were used in the south, but the only type we saw was the standard 13A.

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Most shops are full of ES fittings rather than BC, which is the common type used here, as used to be the case in the UK. Very hard to find a BC lamp in Tesco, Lidl, B&Q etc.
Ah, but it's much the same here in the UK. An insidious attempt to rob us of our Bayonet Cap heritage.
I'd start one of those Downing Street petitions, but I fear it's far too late.
Yes, I`m afraid we`re screwed now.
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