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Old 21st Feb 2011, 12:14 am   #1
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I've just come across an 18" record. its from WW11 and it says American USA. V Record. The question is, is it a record as we know it or is it a studio master. There must be a little history about it..

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Old 21st Feb 2011, 12:30 am   #2
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18" or 16"? Pressing or acetate?
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Old 21st Feb 2011, 1:24 am   #3
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Weren't V discs by Voice of America and distributed to forces stations around the globe to boost morale?

Aha! I was sort of right...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V-Disc

The V-Disc project actually began in June 1941, six months before the United States' involvement in World War II, when Captain Howard Bronson was assigned to the Army's Recreation and Welfare Section as a musical advisor. Bronson suggested the troops might appreciate a series of records featuring military band music, inspirational records that could motivate soldiers and improve morale. By 1942, the Armed Forces Radio Service (AFRS) sent 16-inch, 33 rpm vinyl transcription discs to the troops from eight sources: special recording sessions, concerts, recitals, radio broadcasts, film sound tracks and commercial records.



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Old 21st Feb 2011, 12:11 pm   #4
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Hi.

Well ! blow me down. Thats realy interesting. I'll have it mounted and put it an the wall.

Thank you.

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Among many others popular artistes of the war years, recordings of Glenn Miller's AEF orchestra was distributed for American forces in Europe via V-disc.
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Em, so it wont fit in a Dansette!
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Old 21st Feb 2011, 6:21 pm   #7
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Em, so it wont fit in a Dansette!
This is where you really need that 12" SME arm.
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If memory serves right, there was/were program(s) a few years ago on Radio 2, introduced by one Dave Gelly, about the 'V' Discs. As to playing them, surely only one of the 'professional' studio decks, having a large diameter turntable, can accommodate them?
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Old 22nd Feb 2011, 1:48 pm   #9
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I believe a Garrard 4HF will do it (with disc hanging beyond edge of turtable). Unfortuanetly these have shot up in price of late as a sort of poor man's 301.

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These discs are 16" or 18" in diameter, they wont fit on a 301, you need something like an EMT.
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Old 22nd Feb 2011, 5:05 pm   #11
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Ok a 4hf won't do 18", but I believe it will take a 16" disc with disc hanging beyond edge of turntable. 301 Will do 16", with the same proviso, if a 12" arm is used. Beyond this size, or if you want the outer 2" suppported you're into EMT territory
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Old 22nd Feb 2011, 5:26 pm   #12
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The earlier Goldring Lenco GL58/59/70 decks will play 16" transcription discs if you remove the arm lift device to give clearance. The standard "V" discs were 12" "unbreakable" vinyl 78s and will play on almost anything. There was a wind up machine supplied to play "V" discs with steel needles , probably why most surviving copies are in poor condition, but they were never intended to be preserved.

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