The Audiophoolery Thread.

[Cathovisor]

Originally Posted by DMcMahon

I assume the dot (.) in the price at the end of the long description should be a comma (,), i.e. 70,000 GBP as against 70.000 GBP, if the dot is correct then indeed a bargain

David

A dot is used as a delimiter for thousands in Germany and many other European countries, whilst the comma is used as a delimiter in several European countries for the fractional part of the currency, e.g. 8,70 €.

I have seen apostrophes used as the delimiter for thousands too.

[knobtwiddler]

I just clicked on the Audiogon classifieds out of curiosity, having come across something for sale on another group. At the top of the page, they have the 'boosted' listings, i.e. sponsored ones. The fuse company appears to have all of the 4 sponsored ads at top of page...

(it could be a cookie thing, where they saw I checked them out..but either way, it suggests that the firm isn't cash-strapped)

edit - they have a new product: https://www.synergisticresearch.com/isolation/ground-isolation/active-ground-block-sx/

[Richardgr]

Well, we all know what makes untold difference to the depth of the soundstage, the punch, the dynamics ... the overall grunt, shall we say ...

Service data for your pride and joy! On a cryogenically treated gold CD, with a DAC90a shaped uranium enriched lead weight to hold it down on the tray!

This forum is missing a trick.

[Craig Sawyers]

Originally Posted by Radio Wrangler

With such a wonderful product (it fills me with wonder that there are people daft enough to buy it), they must have had to move into larger premises.

David

Note on the Chinese website that there is a fuse that is $10,000 US each. Called the QSA Gold fuse.

And they explain all "Wrong fuse direction it will too sound very harsh and bright with a rough overall quality. Sound is harder, brighter, thinner with much more hash."

So the fuse somehow knows the difference between electrons shuffling back and forth and shuffling forth and back

Craig

[Craig Sawyers]

Ha ha. Their website is a GoDaddy roll your own site. And their US address is vacant. What a bunch of scammers.

Craig

[Richardgr]

Originally Posted by knobtwiddler

When I looked up the price, the Red model was £1,400 inc. VAT.

Be fair, Richard. It's better value than you make out

Sent the wrong link, should have been ...
The .... gulp ... red black one

[knobtwiddler]

I stand corrected. I thought I'd found a bargain. I guess you have to pay for the good stuff!

[Malcolm G6ANZ]

So what happens when they blow? Or do you have to have a sacrificial fuse as well to protect your investment? But that would cause all sorts of distortion having an unknown fuse in series with the 'real' one. I note that they are directional. On AC?

[Radio Wrangler]

Ah, the current may be alternating, but I suspect that if you query the manufacturers about this, you'll be told that they are special and act on information flow direction.

David

[Malcolm G6ANZ]

I never realised that there was information flow on mains wiring

[mark_in_manc]

Originally Posted by ajgriff

It's probably been mentioned before but I was intrigued by the Angel Hair acoustic filling only to find that Mundorf also offer Unicorn's Tail filling. Theses are the web pages:

https://www.mundorf.com/audio/en/shop/Damping/MSilence_Angel/

https://www.mundorf.com/audio/en/shop/Damping/MSilence_Unicorn/

Both versions retail at €69.90 per 200g.


Alan

You really can't make this stuff up. With those names, they are actively taking the **** out of their market. They must roll on the floor laughing!

I used to work in acoustics; I once had a student (clever guy, Swiss as I remember) spend a summer making careful measurements of the acoustic impedance of / complex propagation constant through - various waddings used in loudspeaker enclosures. He made some math models of cabinet behaviours and compared these to measured results. I was hoping we'd find something interesting. He spent a long time sorting out a standing wave tube apparatus so he could get repeatable results, and finally was ready to begin the experiment.


He basically concluded that so long as something fibrous / open cell was in there, it didn't really matter what it was. I think he was marked quite highly - it was a repeatable, useful result

[Michael Maurice]

Originally Posted by Craig Sawyers

Note on the Chinese website that there is a fuse that is $10,000 US each. Called the QSA Gold fuse.

And they explain all "Wrong fuse direction it will too sound very harsh and bright with a rough overall quality. Sound is harder, brighter, thinner with much more hash."

So the fuse somehow knows the difference between electrons shuffling back and forth and shuffling forth and back

Craig

I wonder what my wife would say if I told her I'd remortaged the house to buy one of these fuses?

[Radio Wrangler]

Originally Posted by Michael Maurice

I wonder what my wife would say if I told her I'd remortaged the house to buy one of these fuses?

I'm not sure what the wording would be, but it's pretty certain that there would be a lot of 'slam' in the overall sound.

David

[Craig Sawyers]

Rather than around £50 for 200g of the Mundorf speaker lagging, you can buy the traditional long fibre wool from Chimney Sheep in the Lake District. Real Herdwick wool.

For the same money that gets you 200g of Mundorf nonsense, you can get 2.5kg of long fibre wool https://www.chimneysheep.co.uk/product/a-bit-of-insulation/

I bought 1kg mainly to stuff up the chimney, and I have enough left over to stuff quite a few loudspeakers.

Craig

[kalee20]

Originally Posted by Richardgr

Sent the wrong link, should have been ...
The .... gulp ... red black one

But they seem to be available only in 13A ratings, no 3A or 5A?

What happens if I have round-pin mains sockets in my home with no provision for a plug fuse... is my sound going to be equivalent to what I'd get with the most expensive fuse?

[dglcomp]

Not really audiophoolery but a NZ Technics advert going big on how their midi system was made of separates not just made to look like separates like the others, what's funny is that my SA-X900L is exactly the kind of system they are deriding (just that the turntable is separate) and it's a similar era Technics!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CLsvaQchC8

[Radio Wrangler]

Originally Posted by kalee20

But they seem to be available only in 13A ratings, no 3A or 5A?

What happens if I have round-pin mains sockets in my home with no provision for a plug fuse... is my sound going to be equivalent to what I'd get with the most expensive fuse?

Skilled listeners in prolong listening tests determined that 3A and 5A were not musical values.

The most expensive fuses calm electrons and promote smoother flow increasing the power capacity of your interconnects resulting in less strangulation of crescendos. You are missing out without them. You need to start saving.

David

[Craig Sawyers]

Originally Posted by Radio Wrangler

Skilled listeners in prolong listening tests determined that 3A and 5A were not musical values.

The most expensive fuses calm electrons and promote smoother flow increasing the power capacity of your interconnects resulting in less strangulation of crescendos. You are missing out without them. You need to start saving.

David

You have to apply the magic word "quantum" to any choices such as you describe.

Craig

[Lucien Nunes]

"But that sound equipment is my own, not the firm's."
"Yes, sir, however as it is in use in the workplace, it is subject to ISITEE under the EAW regulations."
"That's what we used to call PAT, right?"
"Yes, and you'll be pleased to know it all passed."
"I should think so too, it's rather high-end stuff."
"Only one thing, the fuses in some of the plugs didn't meet BS1362. They were the wrong colour. A 13A fuse must be brown and a 5A black, but these were mostly red. I swapped them out for proper brown ones"
"You WHAT? Erm, you, um, what did you do with the old ones?"
"I broke them open to see whether they contained silica. Many of these dodgy fuses don't, you know. As it happens yours were safe enough but they were still no good on account of the colour. Don't worry, there's no charge for the replacements."

[Radio Wrangler]

I love it!

The conversation might have continued....

"You mean those were special fuses which affect the sound? But we can't have anything which fails ISITEE on the premises. Besides, I fitted the correct fuses last week and you've been using it since then. Didn't you notice?... One thing I did notice, they had an arrow printed on them, were they military surplus?"

David