Bush TV22 - UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum

Martin Bush · 16th Sep 2016, 2:12 pm

I had to share this...

Just popped into a "vintage" shop in Oxford and spotted a Bush TV22 high above the counter.

Now it looked in nice condition and I just said "that won't be for sale will it?" thinking it would be a display item.

The answer was "It will be £1,000 and it doesn't work".

There was also a Fidelity record player for £195.

I bought neither

Sean Williams · 16th Sep 2016, 5:58 pm

They aren't for sale then....

Martin Bush · 16th Sep 2016, 6:17 pm

The TV maybe they thought was super valuable and would only entertain big money - fair enough. If I had one I'd be the same... but then I don't have a shop.

But the record player was clearly priced and very much for sale.

This is a trendy part of Oxford and I expect these things do sell. Not sure if that is a good or bad thing.

HamishBoxer · 16th Sep 2016, 7:45 pm

The words "I had a dream a fantasy" come to mind.

radiolot · 16th Sep 2016, 9:27 pm

I'm reminded of the biggest shock of any post-war telly offered, which sold for, well - just a tad more than what was expected...
https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/176...tegory=results

I believe this may be an auction world-record for a TV22, which makes this establishment in Oxford look rather competitive. They should do a fish tank conversion - it'll sell for £1000. Then they can give one of us the insides!
Lau

60 oldjohn · 16th Sep 2016, 10:39 pm

It is not only TVs that are expensive, I see an Ekco A320 c1957 buy it now for £800!

John.

Martin Bush · 16th Sep 2016, 10:58 pm

Good grief! As a Bush fan I'd like a TV22 to use... as a TV. I don't relish paying that much for an unserviced set in that state.

I expect there's people who know a bit about clothes who go in the same shop and blanche at the cost of those too (I overheard someone being told about some dresses that were £100 - I don't think a sale was made then either).

But enough stuff must sell for the place to keep going, and good luck to them. I just hope I can get my TV22 before they become out of my range.

At least the old gear is less likely to get trashed these days.

Lloyd 1985 · 17th Sep 2016, 1:34 am

And I thought the prices had dropped, one went for £27.56 on eBay earlier this month! I wouldn't buy one from one of these 'vintage' shops, they always over-inflate prices. Best bet is eBay, or the NVCF in May.

No TV22 is worth £1000... Not unless it belonged to someone important and has the relevant documentation to prove it, or it happens to be a rare prototype. I paid £235 for my first one back in 2003, luckily it had a good tube and LOPT, I then bought another in 2010 for £140, unfortunately with a duff tube, and when I did fully restore it (fitting a good tube from another set) the LOPT packed in with shorted turns! Damn shame, as it had a cracking picture

Regards,
Lloyd.

Viewmaster · 17th Sep 2016, 6:41 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by radiolot

I'm reminded of the biggest shock of any post-war telly offered, which sold for, well - just a tad more than what was expected...

And according to Bonham's description it has a crack across the top !!!

Maybe cracks are becoming collectable.

Martin Bush · 17th Sep 2016, 8:10 am

It will depend when the crack was made. If it was in the 50s it's over half a century old and authentic.

If it was last week it's professionally distressed and therefore adds to its character.

If it's got a lightbulb jammed in the top it's steam punk.

HamishBoxer · 17th Sep 2016, 9:37 am

I notice the Bonham can get BBC2? Or not I think.Must mean Band 3 converter.

radiolot · 17th Sep 2016, 3:55 pm

That was the vendor comment in the footnote (M. B-L comments) - the set itself was fine, no cracks or back panel holes. I think he was referring what sometimes happened to this model generally.

wd40addict · 19th Sep 2016, 1:24 pm

There is another market for these completely separate from the sort of people who frequent this forum:

My TV22 came from a guy who'd bought it 10 years before from an antique dealer. He had it in his home as a retro conversation piece / ornament.

At least this meant it was kept dry and untouched.

16th Sep 2016, 2:12 pm	#1
Martin Bush Octode Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Oxfordshire, UK. Posts: 1,911	Bush TV22 I had to share this... Just popped into a "vintage" shop in Oxford and spotted a Bush TV22 high above the counter. Now it looked in nice condition and I just said "that won't be for sale will it?" thinking it would be a display item. The answer was "It will be £1,000 and it doesn't work". There was also a Fidelity record player for £195. I bought neither

16th Sep 2016, 5:58 pm	#2
Sean Williams Dekatron Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: St.Ippolyts, Hitchin, Hertfordshire QRA IO91UW Posts: 3,518	Re: Bush TV22 They aren't for sale then.... __________________ Engineers make things work and have spare bits when finished

16th Sep 2016, 6:17 pm	#3
Martin Bush Octode Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Oxfordshire, UK. Posts: 1,911	Re: Bush TV22 The TV maybe they thought was super valuable and would only entertain big money - fair enough. If I had one I'd be the same... but then I don't have a shop. But the record player was clearly priced and very much for sale. This is a trendy part of Oxford and I expect these things do sell. Not sure if that is a good or bad thing.

16th Sep 2016, 7:45 pm	#4
HamishBoxer Dekatron Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: W.Butterwick, near Doncaster UK. Posts: 8,935	Re: Bush TV22 The words "I had a dream a fantasy" come to mind. __________________ G8JET BVWS Archivist and Member V.M.A.R.S

16th Sep 2016, 9:27 pm	#5
radiolot Tetrode Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Eastbourne, E. Sussex, UK. Posts: 96	Re: Bush TV22 I'm reminded of the biggest shock of any post-war telly offered, which sold for, well - just a tad more than what was expected... https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/176...tegory=results I believe this may be an auction world-record for a TV22, which makes this establishment in Oxford look rather competitive. They should do a fish tank conversion - it'll sell for £1000. Then they can give one of us the insides! Lau

16th Sep 2016, 10:39 pm	#6
60 oldjohn Dekatron Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Yorkshire, UK. Posts: 3,988	Re: Bush TV22 It is not only TVs that are expensive, I see an Ekco A320 c1957 buy it now for £800! John.

16th Sep 2016, 10:58 pm	#7
Martin Bush Octode Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Oxfordshire, UK. Posts: 1,911	Re: Bush TV22 Good grief! As a Bush fan I'd like a TV22 to use... as a TV. I don't relish paying that much for an unserviced set in that state. I expect there's people who know a bit about clothes who go in the same shop and blanche at the cost of those too (I overheard someone being told about some dresses that were £100 - I don't think a sale was made then either). But enough stuff must sell for the place to keep going, and good luck to them. I just hope I can get my TV22 before they become out of my range. At least the old gear is less likely to get trashed these days.

17th Sep 2016, 1:34 am	#8
Lloyd 1985 Nonode Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Coningsby, Lincolnshire, UK. Posts: 2,820	Re: Bush TV22 And I thought the prices had dropped, one went for £27.56 on eBay earlier this month! I wouldn't buy one from one of these 'vintage' shops, they always over-inflate prices. Best bet is eBay, or the NVCF in May. No TV22 is worth £1000... Not unless it belonged to someone important and has the relevant documentation to prove it, or it happens to be a rare prototype. I paid £235 for my first one back in 2003, luckily it had a good tube and LOPT, I then bought another in 2010 for £140, unfortunately with a duff tube, and when I did fully restore it (fitting a good tube from another set) the LOPT packed in with shorted turns! Damn shame, as it had a cracking picture Regards, Lloyd.

17th Sep 2016, 8:10 am	#10
Martin Bush Octode Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Oxfordshire, UK. Posts: 1,911	Re: Bush TV22 It will depend when the crack was made. If it was in the 50s it's over half a century old and authentic. If it was last week it's professionally distressed and therefore adds to its character. If it's got a lightbulb jammed in the top it's steam punk.

17th Sep 2016, 9:37 am	#11
HamishBoxer Dekatron Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: W.Butterwick, near Doncaster UK. Posts: 8,935	Re: Bush TV22 I notice the Bonham can get BBC2? Or not I think.Must mean Band 3 converter. __________________ G8JET BVWS Archivist and Member V.M.A.R.S

17th Sep 2016, 3:55 pm	#12
radiolot Tetrode Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Eastbourne, E. Sussex, UK. Posts: 96	Re: Bush TV22 That was the vendor comment in the footnote (M. B-L comments) - the set itself was fine, no cracks or back panel holes. I think he was referring what sometimes happened to this model generally.

19th Sep 2016, 1:24 pm	#13
wd40addict Octode Join Date: May 2009 Location: Stevenage, Herts. UK. Posts: 1,518	Re: Bush TV22 There is another market for these completely separate from the sort of people who frequent this forum: My TV22 came from a guy who'd bought it 10 years before from an antique dealer. He had it in his home as a retro conversation piece / ornament. At least this meant it was kept dry and untouched.