UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Powered By Google Custom Search Vintage Radio and TV Service Data

Go Back   UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum > Specific Vintage Equipment > Television Standards Converters, Modulators etc

Notices

Television Standards Converters, Modulators etc Standards converters, modulators anything else for providing signals to vintage televisions.

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old 8th Sep 2007, 4:27 pm   #1
Racalfanatic
Retired Dormant Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Stoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, UK.
Posts: 105
Default Thrilled with my Aurora!

It's superb!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...h_DSCN0402.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...h_DSCN0391.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...h_DSCN0388.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...h_DSCN0387.jpg
Racalfanatic is offline  
Old 8th Sep 2007, 4:29 pm   #2
Racalfanatic
Retired Dormant Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Stoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, UK.
Posts: 105
Default Re: Thrilled with my Aurora!

A couple more shots.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...h_DSCN0409.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...h_DSCN0404.jpg
Racalfanatic is offline  
Old 8th Sep 2007, 5:39 pm   #3
Panrock
Nonode
 
Panrock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Worcestershire, UK.
Posts: 2,492
Default Re: Thrilled with my Aurora!

Yes, these excellent little boxes have really opened up the market for working 405 TVs.

I'm expecting another one, destined for the Dorking pub, to be delivered on Tuesday. I paid the import charge today.

We'll all have to meet up for a drink there when it's installed!

Steve
__________________
https://www.radiocraft.co.uk
Panrock is online now  
Old 22nd Sep 2007, 8:58 pm   #4
Racalfanatic
Retired Dormant Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Stoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, UK.
Posts: 105
Default Re: Thrilled with my Aurora!

I can not imagine how I ever managed without it
Racalfanatic is offline  
Old 22nd Sep 2007, 9:11 pm   #5
ppppenguin
Retired Dormant Member
 
ppppenguin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: North London, UK.
Posts: 6,168
Default Re: Thrilled with my Aurora!

I couldn't agree more with both Racalfanatic and Steve.

When I reviewed the Aurorae (there were 2, it's the later one that's really opened up the market) I was necessarily taking a professional view and picking at the very few nits that were there to be picked. (You can see the review on the publications page on my website) In fact I'm as excited as anyone else that a highly skilled engineer like Darryl has taken the time and trouble to design and manufacture such a superb unit for the amateur market. Darryl is a professional design engineer in the video equipment industry; his knowledge and skill are abundantly obvious in the Aurora. Not just on the design side but the whole business of putting it into production.

I too design video equipment for a living so perhaps I can appreciate more than most just what Darryl has achieved. I know that if I had attempted something similar it would have been a lot less elegant, rather bigger and more expensive.
ppppenguin is offline  
Old 22nd Sep 2007, 9:27 pm   #6
murphyv310
Dekatron
 
murphyv310's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, UK.
Posts: 5,376
Default Re: Thrilled with my Aurora!

Hello.
I too must agree these converters are wonderful.
I now have 3, the original multistandard converter, a 405 only basic converter with modulator & a 405 NTSC converter with modulator.
I would think the NTSC converter would be a suitable video scource for the AP transmitter project.
Well done Darryl
you are 100% and should be knighted etc
Trevor
__________________
Cheers,
Trevor.
MM0KJJ. RSGB, GQRP, WACRAL, K&LARC. Member
murphyv310 is offline  
Old 22nd Sep 2007, 9:33 pm   #7
Racalfanatic
Retired Dormant Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Stoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, UK.
Posts: 105
Default Re: Thrilled with my Aurora!

It's such good value and it's so small. I hope that Darryl continues producing these so that more people can enjoy seeing 405 line pictures again. Not to mention the other obsolete standards.
Racalfanatic is offline  
Old 24th Sep 2007, 2:08 pm   #8
tubesrule
Hexode
 
tubesrule's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Michigan USA
Posts: 325
Default Re: Thrilled with my Aurora!

Hello all,
Thanks for the feedback and the praise This has been such a fun project both from a design standpoint, and meeting collectors around the world. I'm closing in on shipping the 200th unit! I hope to continue to make them available as long as there is interest and I am able to do so.

Cheers,
Darryl
tubesrule is offline  
Old 11th Oct 2007, 10:49 pm   #9
johnlees
Hexode
 
johnlees's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, UK.
Posts: 283
Thumbs up Re: Thrilled with my Aurora!

Brilliant job, Darryl. I now have my Aurora and it's superb. Superb pictures on my Defiant Model 7109 (Thanks, Chipp.). My acquaintances think I'm peculiar (or mad), the young salesman in a well-known High Street electronics store scratched his head as to what 405 lines meant and my brother threw a wobbly.
But "The nostalgia is terrific" as some character in the Bunter stories said. Maybe tomorrow I'll remember his name.
__________________
Now that's the kind of Long Wave I like ! (Severn Bore near Gloucester)
johnlees is offline  
Old 12th Oct 2007, 8:01 am   #10
Mike Phelan
Dekatron
 
Mike Phelan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Near Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK
Posts: 4,585
Default Re: Thrilled with my Aurora!

That was Hurree Singh, John.
__________________
Mike.
Mike Phelan is offline  
Old 12th Oct 2007, 8:58 pm   #11
johnlees
Hexode
 
johnlees's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, UK.
Posts: 283
Default Re: Thrilled with my Aurora!

That's the one!
Back on topic, I did have a little snag with the Aurora and that was I didn't at first use the correct size of DC supply plug to it. I thought it was the right size as it seemed to plug in but it wasn't. After a fit of despair and after I had PM-ed Darryl to tell him that it didn't work, a sudden flash of inspiration got me trying a smaller plug whereupon the problem was solved.
I immediately PM-ed Darryl again with the good news and he commented back that I was not the first person to make this mistake as with some plugs the centre spike doesn't connect to the Aurora correctly.
All my fault, of course, but it took me a while to spot it.
__________________
Now that's the kind of Long Wave I like ! (Severn Bore near Gloucester)
johnlees is offline  
Old 12th Oct 2007, 9:12 pm   #12
ppppenguin
Retired Dormant Member
 
ppppenguin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: North London, UK.
Posts: 6,168
Default Re: Thrilled with my Aurora!

I don't think much of those concentric power connectors. Too many different sizes, some of which look similar and aren't quite the same. The PSU I was using with my Aurora probably has the wrong size plug and was occasionally intermittent. I've found another wall wart now which seems to fit properly.
ppppenguin is offline  
Old 13th Oct 2007, 10:36 am   #13
Panrock
Nonode
 
Panrock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Worcestershire, UK.
Posts: 2,492
Default Re: Thrilled with my Aurora!

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnlees View Post
...and he commented back that I was not the first person to make this mistake as with some plugs the centre spike doesn't connect to the Aurora correctly.
And that other person was me It's an easy mistake to make.

Needless to say, Darryl's converter was perfect. There's yet another TV22 on the horizon now so another order will likely be on its way soon...

Steve
__________________
https://www.radiocraft.co.uk
Panrock is online now  
Old 13th Oct 2007, 2:27 pm   #14
Ian - G4JQT
Octode
 
Ian - G4JQT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Reading/Fakenham, UK.
Posts: 1,244
Default Re: Thrilled with my Aurora!

I know I’m repeating what numerous others have already said, but I too am thrilled with the Aurora!

Just found a “wall wart” PSU, switched it on and was presented with a beautiful Test Card C and tone.

But a note about those horrid “wall warts” – apologies if this has been discussed before …

The cheap ones (that seems to be most of them) are horribly unregulated. My two (different makes) that are marked 9V at 600mA are 18V off load and still 16V when drawing 300 mA! To cut a long story short, for the Aurora I’m using one marked 6V 1A and even that’s 12V off load and 10V drawing 200 mA.

Unfortunately many are sealed, but I did have one that could be opened and so modified it with a proper regulator IC and added some decent smoothing and 0.01 uF RF decoupling disc ceramic caps. That was very successfully used for a 12V PSU.

This isn’t to suggest that Darryl should include one – the varying mains-pin configurations and voltages required (and varying national regulations over mains equipment?) together with the added postal weight makes including them a non-starter. The Aurora spec shows that there is plenty of latitude (7 to 14V) in DC output voltage before any damage occurs.

Parcel Force required me to pay £24.07 VAT plus £13.50 “Clearance Fee”. This seems about what others have paid.

Anyway, great device Darryl – many thanks!

Ian
Ian - G4JQT is offline  
Old 13th Oct 2007, 4:13 pm   #15
evingar
Octode
 
evingar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Newbury, Berkshire, UK.
Posts: 1,770
Default Re: Thrilled with my Aurora!

Quote:
The cheap ones (that seems to be most of them) are horribly unregulated. My two (different makes) that are marked 9V at 600mA are 18V off load and still 16V when drawing 300 mA! To cut a long story short, for the Aurora I’m using one marked 6V 1A and even that’s 12V off load and 10V drawing 200 mA.
The low current ones are usually unregulated linear design. If a higher current type is chosen (say a couple of amps output or greater), it will usually be of a switching regulator design. These types have much better regulation, although they can give be noisy.
__________________
Chris
evingar is offline  
Old 29th Oct 2007, 9:44 pm   #16
Hunts smoothing bomb
Octode
 
Hunts smoothing bomb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Wimborne, Dorset, UK.
Posts: 1,406
Default Re: Thrilled with my Aurora!

I run mine on a regulated multi voltage adaptor, I did run it the other night on 12vdc without realising and the aurora shut down after 30 secs or so, there was a moment of panic as I thought I had popped it!
After disconnecting the supply and resetting the correct voltage of 9vdc and powering up again I was rewarded with testcard C .... Phew!!

Lee
__________________
Lee
Hunts smoothing bomb is offline  
Old 29th Oct 2007, 11:06 pm   #17
evingar
Octode
 
evingar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Newbury, Berkshire, UK.
Posts: 1,770
Default Re: Thrilled with my Aurora!

Quote:
I did run it the other night on 12vdc without realising and the aurora shut down after 30 secs or so, there was a moment of panic as I thought I had popped it!
I don't know the design, but I should imagine it has a small linear (5V / 3.3V / 1.8V ?) reg inside for the logic. These invariably have a thermal shutdown built in.
__________________
Chris
evingar is offline  
Old 30th Oct 2007, 12:11 am   #18
tubesrule
Hexode
 
tubesrule's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Michigan USA
Posts: 325
Default Re: Thrilled with my Aurora!

Hi Lee,
All power for the board goes through a Schottky diode for reverse battery protection and then a 5 volt regulator. All other regulators are driven off this one. 12 volts is within the normal operating range for the unit (7-14VDC) so I'm not sure why it would have shut down. I run mine off an unregulated 9VDC 200ma rated transformer and end up with just over 12V to the unit. They will run warmer at this voltage, dissipating about 2.5W at 12V, but this is well within spec. The main regulator will go into thermal shutdown to protect itself if to high a voltage is applied. The only thing I can think of is to make sure the supply was not providing a higher voltage than expected.

Cheers,
Darryl
tubesrule is offline  
Old 3rd Nov 2007, 4:46 pm   #19
ppppenguin
Retired Dormant Member
 
ppppenguin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: North London, UK.
Posts: 6,168
Default Re: Thrilled with my Aurora!

Quote:
I did run it the other night on 12vdc without realising and the aurora shut down after 30 secs or so, there was a moment of panic as I thought I had popped it!
Lee, yours might be an early firmware version which shuts down automatically after a time in the absence of signal inputs. Not sure which version this was changed on. Need to look at the label on the back, post the version number here and Darryl or I should be able to tell you. If it's an early one I can update it FOC if you bring or post it to my place.
ppppenguin is offline  
Old 8th Nov 2007, 8:45 pm   #20
murphyv310
Dekatron
 
murphyv310's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, UK.
Posts: 5,376
Default Re: Thrilled with my Aurora!

Hello Darryl.
No doubt you have seen the thread on the Decca 405 line NTSC mod, I am hoping to do some work on the decoder this weekend perhaps there will be pictures in colour to see! My intentions are to have the mains auto transformer rewound into an isolated primary so the sets chassis will not be at mains potential. I have decided to not repair the sets tuner & IF strip but feed video at baseband via an amp to get the correct phase into the luma/chroma board, I will feed the conveter from a freeveiw box.

To my main point though, with the way the dollar is now these converters are really cheap here now, are you still building them Darryl and for how long?
Trevor
__________________
Cheers,
Trevor.
MM0KJJ. RSGB, GQRP, WACRAL, K&LARC. Member
murphyv310 is offline  
Closed Thread

Thread Tools



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 7:49 pm.


All information and advice on this forum is subject to the WARNING AND DISCLAIMER located at https://www.vintage-radio.net/rules.html.
Failure to heed this warning may result in death or serious injury to yourself and/or others.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2023, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright ©2002 - 2023, Paul Stenning.