405 line TV. Standards Convertor. - UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum

Racalfanatic · 18th Aug 2007, 6:40 pm

Hi All,
I'd like to restore a 405 line TV. I'm new to TV restoration but I'd love to see a 405 line picture again.
Also any advice on standards converters would be much apreciated.
Cheers,
Ian G1DRP

Courtney Louise · 18th Aug 2007, 7:11 pm

Hi Ian,

Do a search here for the Aurora, highly recommended by everyone on the forum for cost and quality

Andi M0SIR

petertheorgan · 18th Aug 2007, 7:46 pm

HI Ian

I have two Aurora converters and I can vouch that they are first class.
To save you going hunting look at
http://converter.home.comcast.net/

I have attached a photograph to show you the result

cheers

Peter

Racalfanatic · 18th Aug 2007, 8:26 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by petertheorgan

HI Ian

I have two Aurora converters and I can vouch that they are first class.
To save you going hunting look at
http://converter.home.comcast.net/

I have attached a photograph to show you the result

cheers

Peter

Hi Peter,
Can you use them for moving pictures? Please excuse my ignorance.
Cheers,
Ian G1DRP

petertheorgan · 18th Aug 2007, 8:32 pm

Hi Ian

Hi Ian
yes you can , they have a built in image ( testcard) but they turn 625 video and audio ( i e from a scart output ) into live 405
if you read the instructions on line it will tell you all about them and the builder( Darryl) is "tubesrule" on here
hope this is helpful
Peter

plumbweiss · 18th Aug 2007, 8:51 pm

I think Darryl should be in the Queen's Honours List for Services to Vintage Television...an honourary title of course.

Racalfanatic · 18th Aug 2007, 9:08 pm

Sounds great! I'll get myself a 405 line television first.

plumbweiss · 18th Aug 2007, 9:44 pm

Well here's some proper TV I've just snapped. These are off a freeview box.

Racalfanatic · 19th Aug 2007, 2:19 pm

Looks excellent! I've been looking at the website. I'll get an old 405 telly and get that going first, I think.
Cheers,

Ian G1DRP

ALANS ANITAS · 19th Aug 2007, 3:54 pm

How will you know if the set is working without a signal source?

ALAN

Racalfanatic · 19th Aug 2007, 7:05 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALANS ANITAS

How will you know if the set is working without a signal source?

ALAN

Hi Alan,
I'd have a fairly good idea if I could get a raster and some sound.
Obviously there could be other faults, such as IF faults but it be a start.
Cheers,
Ian G1DRP

Steve_P · 20th Aug 2007, 6:14 pm

Read and Learn...

www.oldtellys.co.uk

Cheers,

Steve P

Derek · 20th Aug 2007, 7:30 pm

It has never been easier to supply a 405 signal to an old telly now that we have the Aurora, but many notable designs have come and gone in recent years for which we are all grateful. I understand there are now Auroras that have an external channel selector which makes it easier still.

Racalfanatic · 28th Aug 2007, 8:19 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek

It has never been easier to supply a 405 signal to an old telly now that we have the Aurora, but many notable designs have come and gone in recent years for which we are all grateful. I understand there are now Auroras that have an external channel selector which makes it easier still.

I have now ordered myself an Aurora from Darryl

chipp1968 · 28th Aug 2007, 9:07 pm

18th Aug 2007, 6:40 pm	#1
Racalfanatic Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Stoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, UK. Posts: 105	405 line TV. Standards Convertor. Hi All, I'd like to restore a 405 line TV. I'm new to TV restoration but I'd love to see a 405 line picture again. Also any advice on standards converters would be much apreciated. Cheers, Ian G1DRP

18th Aug 2007, 7:11 pm	#2
Courtney Louise Octode Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Nuneaton, Warwickshire. UK. Posts: 1,300	Re: 405 line TV. Standards Convertor. Hi Ian, Do a search here for the Aurora, highly recommended by everyone on the forum for cost and quality Andi M0SIR __________________ *33, 45, 78, around and around they go...*

18th Aug 2007, 7:46 pm	#3
petertheorgan Hexode Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bromley, Kent, UK. Posts: 331	Re: 405 line TV. Standards Convertor. HI Ian I have two Aurora converters and I can vouch that they are first class. To save you going hunting look at http://converter.home.comcast.net/ I have attached a photograph to show you the result cheers Peter Attached Thumbnails

18th Aug 2007, 8:32 pm	#5
petertheorgan Hexode Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bromley, Kent, UK. Posts: 331	Re: 405 line TV. Standards Convertor. Hi Ian Hi Ian yes you can , they have a built in image ( testcard) but they turn 625 video and audio ( i e from a scart output ) into live 405 if you read the instructions on line it will tell you all about them and the builder( Darryl) is "tubesrule" on here hope this is helpful Peter

18th Aug 2007, 8:51 pm	#6
plumbweiss Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Manchester, UK. Posts: 157	Re: 405 line TV. Standards Convertor. I think Darryl should be in the Queen's Honours List for Services to Vintage Television...an honourary title of course.

18th Aug 2007, 9:08 pm	#7
Racalfanatic Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Stoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, UK. Posts: 105	Re: 405 line TV. Standards Convertor. Sounds great! I'll get myself a 405 line television first.

18th Aug 2007, 9:44 pm	#8
plumbweiss Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Manchester, UK. Posts: 157	Re: 405 line TV. Standards Convertor. Well here's some proper TV I've just snapped. These are off a freeview box. Attached Thumbnails

19th Aug 2007, 2:19 pm	#9
Racalfanatic Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Stoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, UK. Posts: 105	Re: 405 line TV. Standards Convertor. Looks excellent! I've been looking at the website. I'll get an old 405 telly and get that going first, I think. Cheers, Ian G1DRP

19th Aug 2007, 3:54 pm	#10
ALANS ANITAS Rest in Peace Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: North West Northamptonshire, UK. Posts: 346	Re: 405 line TV. Standards Convertor. How will you know if the set is working without a signal source? ALAN

20th Aug 2007, 6:14 pm	#12
Steve_P Dekatron Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bolton, Greater Manchester, UK. Posts: 6,639	Re: 405 line TV. Standards Convertor. Read and Learn... www.oldtellys.co.uk Cheers, Steve P __________________ If we've always had it, why is the Car Boot open? You're not sneaking another Old TV in are you...?

20th Aug 2007, 7:30 pm	#13
Derek Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: North East Posts: 61	Re: 405 line TV. Standards Convertor. It has never been easier to supply a 405 signal to an old telly now that we have the Aurora, but many notable designs have come and gone in recent years for which we are all grateful. I understand there are now Auroras that have an external channel selector which makes it easier still.

28th Aug 2007, 9:07 pm	#15
chipp1968 Rest in Peace Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Somerset, UK. Posts: 2,356	Re: 405 line TV. Standards Convertor. You will like it ,I have two

30th Aug 2007, 10:23 pm	#16
FERNSEH Dekatron Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Gateshead, Tyne and Wear, UK. Posts: 7,355	Re: 405 line TV. Standards Convertor. Some three years ago I did attempt to construct a simple line dropping converter for my Pye CTV. I had some bit and pieces left over from that standards converter I constucted way back in the 80s and early 90s. The colour sub-carrier frequency was to be the correct figure of 2.6578125Mhz (525 X 10,125/2) The video source was to be the RGB drives from a DVD or Freeview box. Anyway, the thing did not work all that well and the project was abandoned. If I can find some time I might restart the project again. It'll be a lot more fun that repairing modern stuff. DFWB

22nd Sep 2007, 9:04 pm	#18
Racalfanatic Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Stoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, UK. Posts: 105	Re: 405 line TV. Standards Convertor. I've had my Aurora for a few weeks now and I have to say that it is absolutely excellent!

16th May 2008, 11:02 pm	#19
BGmidsUK Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Leicester, UK. Posts: 809	Re: 405 line TV. Standards Convertor. I would love to see some photos of the set(s) you are using with the Aurora .. I'm currently watching a satelite broadcast on a little Sony TV9-90UB in 405-line mode and the clarity of the pictures, especially the graphics, proves the quality of the Aurora .. I'm amazed at how clear and sharp the picture is! Shame about the absence of black-level clamping on these sets BG