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8th Oct 2013, 7:37 pm | #1 |
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1930s HMV 443 in charity shop
Spotted in the 'retro' section of the British Heart Foundation at Long Eaton, Notts., HMV 443 complete with 'fluid light' tuning, as detailed below (2nd set down)
http://www.vintage-radio.com/manufac...-sets/hmv.html Most unusual to see anything this ancient in a charity shop! It has had a replacement 'toaster flex' mains lead which may or may not suggest it's had some repair or restoration work. The tuning knob doesn't move the indicators, so the drive mechanism appears to need attention (as stated on the label). The set is priced a £65 - I don't know if that's a reasonable going rate or not for one of these quality radios. Steve J |
8th Oct 2013, 11:11 pm | #2 |
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Re: 1930s HMV 443 in charity shop
If the cabinet is good, I would think it's worth it on looks alone!
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8th Oct 2013, 11:21 pm | #3 |
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Re: 1930s HMV 443 in charity shop
And especially if it's not been modified!
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8th Oct 2013, 11:35 pm | #4 |
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Re: 1930s HMV 443 in charity shop
Needs snapping up to preserve its life as a radio rather than an involuntary PX-you-know-what donor.
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9th Oct 2013, 9:32 pm | #5 |
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Re: 1930s HMV 443 in charity shop
A very good point indeed- there's quite enough of that nonsense going on these days.
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9th Oct 2013, 9:52 pm | #6 |
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Re: 1930s HMV 443 in charity shop
Didn't realise it was one of those sets. I just like the look of it. Pity it's 100 miles away.....
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10th Oct 2013, 10:22 pm | #7 |
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Re: 1930s HMV 443 in charity shop
Indeed it is, which is why I carefully didn't mention the component by name, to keep it from the search engines.
Careless talk costs lives! David
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10th Oct 2013, 11:04 pm | #8 |
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Re: 1930s HMV 443 in charity shop
There's an interesting moral point here. Is it better to keep quiet about the true worth of this set in the hope that it might be bought by someone who will leave the desirable component in situ (not that there's any guarantee that that will happen). Or would it be better to tell the sellers, who are after all a charity shop trying to help the sick, that the item might make more money for them if it was sold with a more complete description of what it contains ? I guess it's a matter of conscience ... Sleep well !
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11th Oct 2013, 12:02 am | #9 |
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Re: 1930s HMV 443 in charity shop
I think Steve needs to get down there first thing in the morning, check it's all complete and give them £65 and save it PDQ!
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11th Oct 2013, 8:01 am | #10 |
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Re: 1930s HMV 443 in charity shop
GJ has convinced me.
It's a simple choice between seeing a nice old radio get ruined or missing the opportunity to get a large amount of money transferred from a fool to a worthy charity. Of course both could happen if it gets found and the shop wasn't made aware beforehand. Perhaps the ethical thing is for the OP to tell the shop. Triode-strapped 6L6G on a base adaptor? We wouldn't know that it lacked pace and rhythm if no-one told us. David
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11th Oct 2013, 8:02 am | #11 |
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Oh, If it hasn't been organ-harvested already.
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11th Oct 2013, 10:44 am | #12 |
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Re: 1930s HMV 443 in charity shop
Actually I think there's some genuine uncertainty here. At one extreme if we walked into a charity shop, tried a £20 suit on and found a £200 gold watch in the pocket we'd all know what to do - tell the charity shop to re-price the suit ! (Or, more reasonably, take the watch out and, assuming it hadn't come to them by mistake, sell it separately.)
At the other extreme there are things we would not encourage charity shops to do no matter how much money it would make them - getting into drug dealing (pace Breaking Bad ) or people trafficking for example. This case is somewhere in between. We don't want the charity shop to lose out. But we don't want a nice piece of kit to come to grief either. It's a genuine quandary ... Cheers, GJ |
11th Oct 2013, 9:04 pm | #13 |
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Re: 1930s HMV 443 in charity shop
Well I would pay £65 and restore it! Also not sell on.
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13th Oct 2013, 10:47 am | #14 |
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Re: 1930s HMV 443 in charity shop
Well, rightly or wrongly, I bought the set for £65. My charity shop 'karma' must be high at the moment, as last month I bought a semi-working stereogram from another charity outlet, to which I carried out minor repairs and then refinished the cabinet before giving it back to them to sell on as a runner.
As to the HMV I was wrong about both the charity (Lighthouse not BHF) and the model number (it's a 442 not a 443). The difference is purely cosmetic, with different shaped knobs and speaker grille. The set appears to have been enthusiast-owned, as the grille fabric has been replaced, along with the mains lead and one of the valves has a tiny self-adhesive label attached proclaiming '75%'. Oh and that valve is present and correct. It's been a good week for finds, as not 10 minutes drive from the above charity shop I spotted a complete and very original early 30s bakelite Ekco M23 on a chair outside an antique/junk shop. I snapped it up for £35, the seller having had no interest at £55. Steve |
13th Oct 2013, 3:15 pm | #15 |
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Re: 1930s HMV 443 in charity shop
Very well done, Steve. you've done the right thing and saved it.
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13th Oct 2013, 3:23 pm | #16 |
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Re: 1930s HMV 443 in charity shop
The world is a moral minefield and my own guidence in these matters is internal - I want to like the bloke I see in the mirror
Now that the set has been bought and its future is assured, forgive my ignorance but may I ask just what the mystery super rare component is? Steve.
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13th Oct 2013, 3:29 pm | #17 |
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Re: 1930s HMV 443 in charity shop
It's best not to mention it in public, Steve. We don't want any more jumping on this 'bandwaggon'!
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13th Oct 2013, 4:51 pm | #18 |
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Re: 1930s HMV 443 in charity shop
It's just one of those components that are capable of fetching many times the price of an otherwise similar set that doesn't have one
Look back over Radio Wrangler's posts in this thread for a strong hint......
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Re: 1930s HMV 443 in charity shop
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That said, the charity shop hasn't done badly out of this. If they wanted to strip the radio or sell it for parts they would need to list everything as used untested, which would significantly reduce the selling price. If they wanted to achieve full market value they would need to find a sympathetic volunteer with a decent valve tester, or pay to have the parts tested commercially. |
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13th Oct 2013, 6:39 pm | #20 |
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Re: 1930s HMV 443 in charity shop
Thanks Paul, I thought it was something like that.
Steve
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