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Old 10th Nov 2019, 3:55 pm   #1
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Hello,

New user here, my flatmates and I recently got our hands on a PYE Stereogram 1226. She's a real beauty and all in good working order except the metal clip that holds the stylus in place has snapped and the rubber bridge against which it nestles has gone missing.

We have tried all sorts of different avenues of attack and are running out of options. Any suggestions of a replacement cartridge have to me looked wrong as they wouldn't fit the cartridge mount, which to my amateur eyes looks bespoke to the model (please correct me if I'm wrong). Internet searches haven't proven particularly fruitful!

We would love any and all advice/suggestions on what to do. We're based in Edinburgh but willing to look further for professional help if you could recommend anyone if it is beyond fairly simple amateur repair.

Thanks in advance!
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Old 10th Nov 2019, 4:00 pm   #2
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Can you fit one of the ubiquitous Chinese 'red' cartridges? You would need to fabricate a mounting or glue it in place, but they only cost a couple of quid so it doesn't cost much to experiment.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vinyl-Tur...r/332346982923
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Old 10th Nov 2019, 5:07 pm   #3
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Thank you, just ordered one!

I'm assuming the mount I rigged would have to match the angle of the current cartridge to the arm?
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Old 10th Nov 2019, 5:42 pm   #4
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The make of cartridge used in the PYE is the key.

Should it be the same as used in the similar Garrard TC2025 turntable which also has a very slim headshell, the cartridge is a Real Head Tetrad which is available on eBay and should be a direct replacement.
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Old 10th Nov 2019, 5:47 pm   #5
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You would need to mount the cartridge at approximately the right angle, but it's not hugely critical.
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Old 10th Nov 2019, 6:06 pm   #6
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Yes, this has a later model BSR Autochanger with a very narrow tone arm head. The radiogram is one of the last that Pye ever made. The Chinese Cheapos are probably one of the very few cartridges that will fit it. When fitted, there should be a -15 degree negative rake on the stylus when viewed from the side.
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Old 10th Nov 2019, 6:32 pm   #7
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If it helps, from the PYE User Guide, the cartridge is a BSR SC10M which is no longer available. However the BSR SC7M is and uses the same stili. It would appear both are made by ASTATIC part 669 and look very similar to each other.
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Old 10th Nov 2019, 7:11 pm   #8
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If you want to get a BSR SC7M, The Stylus Lady , indicates they have one, cost 25.
I have no connection with TSL.
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Old 10th Nov 2019, 7:41 pm   #9
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Thank you very much for all your advice, have just found a Tetrad cartridge on ebay which appears to be in the same angled mount! It's a TLG78 EV5619D Tetrad N41D.

Have ordered it and will give it a go and let you know. Thanks again!
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That deck is actually a Glenburn AT100 and the Tetrad cartridge is part of the head. There was another variant with a wider head, but unfortunately that's not yours. So you would need to replace the whole head or try and repair what you have, using another Tetrad cart, which is tricky.

The chinese Chuo denshi clones will not fit. You might get away with trying to fit a BSR SC7h, which is a similar integrated head/cart.

It might be easier just to swap the deck for a BSR C123 or similar with a wide headshell allowing the use of more 'standard' carts.

edit_ just seen your last post and yes, that head should work! The only problem might be tarnished internal contacts giving intermittent audio, so get a guarantee from the seller if poss. Fingers crossed!
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If as a matter of interest you want to see tarnished contacts take a look at attached picture.
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Old 10th Nov 2019, 9:18 pm   #12
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The chinese Chuo denshi clones will not fit.
You can make them fit by cutting them down, I've done it, but the body tends to come apart when you've cut so much of it away, so you'll need the 'Super Glue'.
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Hi, just a warning beware of the Super Glue, it's possible the fumes from the glue could effect the output of the cartridge, and there's no way of knowing until the damage is done.

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Don't worry, I can categorically confirm that Super Glue will NOT affect the output of the cartridge if you use it with care. If you've had this happen, then it's because you've flooded it with the stuff!
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