Can we have a new list of 'recommended' suppliers? - Page 2 - UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum

Station X · 27th Jun 2010, 5:34 pm

The legal term is "Man of Straw" and it's generally said that it's not worth suing a Man of Straw. McDonalds didn't think so though, hence the McLibel case:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonal...rris_%26_Steel

The moderators have been threatened with legal action by eBay sellers, which accounts for the strictly enforced forum rules concerning eBay. So we have to be careful about what comments are allowed concerning component sellers.

BakeliteBear · 27th Jun 2010, 7:09 pm

I see the ‘legal issues’ bit has raised its head again!

Would anyone like to PM me details of some small business/individual, who can supply me a handful of 'vintage style' capacitors and resistors and a length of braided 3-core mains, and is someone I can actually talk to (ie. not an email only/no telephone number company) and might be able to offer some help/guidance about component selection.

….I have a feeling that this suppliers list might be a long time coming!

PS. I promise not to bring my ‘crack team’ of lawyers in if it all goes pear shaped!!

Thanks

oldticktock · 27th Jun 2010, 8:10 pm

A complex thread to get to a simple request.

That's always the way I've done it just ask for a good place to get something and the forum always responds,it happens time & time again without the need usually, for any moderation.

Vintage cap's this happens all the time too and does not raise concerns I get mine from Just Radios they do the old values .05, .002, .003 etc, cap kits and resistor kits too.

Chris

BakeliteBear · 27th Jun 2010, 9:11 pm

Thanks Chris, that's 'Just Radios' in Canada??

Is there know one a bit closer??

JoshWard · 27th Jun 2010, 9:58 pm

A list of suppliers without any comment as regards to their prices in members' opinions and postage rates is probably the way to go. At the end of the day if we have a web address or phone number we can then go and find out how much it will cost from each supplier and then make our own minds up ourselves.

This is how various classic vehicle owners' clubs do it, indeed the vehicle clubs I'm a member of all list suppliers and contact details and what they supply.

This is all what is needed, we can then make our own minds up as to if we commit to a purchase from there.

Maybe an updated list on Paul Stenning's 'main' website would be best as this means we can't comment on it?

Josh.

oldticktock · 27th Jun 2010, 10:04 pm

Yes Canada, they deliver within 3-4 days it's just down the road these days

Ive seen mentioned in other threads RS, Farnell, Cricklewood, Maplins without issue before just as places to obtain, it's up to you to then research, you can even post a request in the wanted section. I did yesterday for some .22 class X.

It's not hard to get components get the schematic for your restoration, work out what you will be changing and bobs your uncle etc. To maintain authentic look you can follow johns excellent stuffing cap thread so modern components can be hidden.

Chris

oldticktock · 28th Jun 2010, 7:09 am

Forgot to mention another one I use and you can get the cloth covered cable "Savoy Hill Publications", again another mentioned quite frequently on here.

Chris

Sideband · 28th Jun 2010, 8:52 am

I don't see a problem with just a list of suppliers as others have said. No comments regarding service are required...it's up to the individual to decide whether service is good or not.

There is often a comment about 'minimum order charges'.....that's how most companies work, and they are in business to make money. If you don't like those charges, don't use that company but it's no reason to mark them down. You usually find that if a list of (say) 12 suppliers is given, it's not long before people get wise to the favourites be they in this country or another. I've used several American companies in the past and found the service to be excellent with delivery within a working week. Some make a charge for using credit cards, others don't. Make your choice!!

Personally, if a particular company has parts that I want and makes a charge for something or other, I'd rather pay it than not have the parts...within reason of course....that's life.

Most of my polyester capacitors come from Cricklewood Electronics. Fast quick efficient service, all ordered on-line and delivered within two days.

SB

wireful3 · 28th Jun 2010, 9:02 am

A list of suppliers and the general type of components I think would be enough and very useful. The main problem is that it is difficult to keep it current so a prominent date when the list was published is very helpful.

With regard to the "Man of Straw" the experience of Simon Singh is worth thinking about. The site policy of avoiding comments about service or anything similar, is a wise one.

Station X · 28th Jun 2010, 10:26 pm

You can post your recommendations for Component Suppliers and Set Repairers in this thread:-

https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/...ad.php?t=55701

27th Jun 2010, 5:34 pm	#21
Station X Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ipswich, Suffolk, IP4, UK. Posts: 21,289	Re: Can we have a new list of 'recommended' suppliers? The legal term is "Man of Straw" and it's generally said that it's not worth suing a Man of Straw. McDonalds didn't think so though, hence the McLibel case:- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonal...rris_%26_Steel The moderators have been threatened with legal action by eBay sellers, which accounts for the strictly enforced forum rules concerning eBay. So we have to be careful about what comments are allowed concerning component sellers. __________________ Graham. Forum Moderator Reach for your meter before you reach for your soldering iron.

27th Jun 2010, 7:09 pm	#22
BakeliteBear Pentode Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Leicestershire Posts: 204	Re: Can we have a new list of 'recommended' suppliers? I see the ‘legal issues’ bit has raised its head again! Would anyone like to PM me details of some small business/individual, who can supply me a handful of 'vintage style' capacitors and resistors and a length of braided 3-core mains, and is someone I can actually talk to (ie. not an email only/no telephone number company) and might be able to offer some help/guidance about component selection. ….I have a feeling that this suppliers list might be a long time coming! PS. I promise not to bring my ‘crack team’ of lawyers in if it all goes pear shaped!! Thanks __________________

27th Jun 2010, 8:10 pm	#23
oldticktock Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Weardale, UK. Posts: 1,981	Re: Can we have a new list of 'recommended' suppliers? A complex thread to get to a simple request. That's always the way I've done it just ask for a good place to get something and the forum always responds,it happens time & time again without the need usually, for any moderation. Vintage cap's this happens all the time too and does not raise concerns I get mine from Just Radios they do the old values .05, .002, .003 etc, cap kits and resistor kits too. Chris

27th Jun 2010, 9:11 pm	#24
BakeliteBear Pentode Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Leicestershire Posts: 204	Re: Can we have a new list of 'recommended' suppliers? Thanks Chris, that's 'Just Radios' in Canada?? Is there know one a bit closer?? __________________

27th Jun 2010, 9:58 pm	#25
JoshWard Octode Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Near Stowmarket, Suffolk, UK. Posts: 1,962	Re: Can we have a new list of 'recommended' suppliers? A list of suppliers without any comment as regards to their prices in members' opinions and postage rates is probably the way to go. At the end of the day if we have a web address or phone number we can then go and find out how much it will cost from each supplier and then make our own minds up ourselves. This is how various classic vehicle owners' clubs do it, indeed the vehicle clubs I'm a member of all list suppliers and contact details and what they supply. This is all what is needed, we can then make our own minds up as to if we commit to a purchase from there. Maybe an updated list on Paul Stenning's 'main' website would be best as this means we can't comment on it? Josh.

27th Jun 2010, 10:04 pm	#26
oldticktock Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Weardale, UK. Posts: 1,981	Re: Can we have a new list of 'recommended' suppliers? Yes Canada, they deliver within 3-4 days it's just down the road these days Ive seen mentioned in other threads RS, Farnell, Cricklewood, Maplins without issue before just as places to obtain, it's up to you to then research, you can even post a request in the wanted section. I did yesterday for some .22 class X. It's not hard to get components get the schematic for your restoration, work out what you will be changing and bobs your uncle etc. To maintain authentic look you can follow johns excellent stuffing cap thread so modern components can be hidden. Chris

28th Jun 2010, 7:09 am	#27
oldticktock Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Weardale, UK. Posts: 1,981	Re: Can we have a new list of 'recommended' suppliers? Forgot to mention another one I use and you can get the cloth covered cable "Savoy Hill Publications", again another mentioned quite frequently on here. Chris

28th Jun 2010, 8:52 am	#28
Sideband Dekatron Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Croydon, Surrey, UK. Posts: 7,580	Re: Can we have a new list of 'recommended' suppliers? I don't see a problem with just a list of suppliers as others have said. No comments regarding service are required...it's up to the individual to decide whether service is good or not. There is often a comment about 'minimum order charges'.....that's how most companies work, and they are in business to make money. If you don't like those charges, don't use that company but it's no reason to mark them down. You usually find that if a list of (say) 12 suppliers is given, it's not long before people get wise to the favourites be they in this country or another. I've used several American companies in the past and found the service to be excellent with delivery within a working week. Some make a charge for using credit cards, others don't. Make your choice!! Personally, if a particular company has parts that I want and makes a charge for something or other, I'd rather pay it than not have the parts...within reason of course....that's life. Most of my polyester capacitors come from Cricklewood Electronics. Fast quick efficient service, all ordered on-line and delivered within two days. SB __________________ There are lots of brilliant keyboard players and then there is Rick Wakeman.....

28th Jun 2010, 9:02 am	#29
wireful3 Retired Dormant Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bristol, UK. Posts: 808	Re: Can we have a new list of 'recommended' suppliers? A list of suppliers and the general type of components I think would be enough and very useful. The main problem is that it is difficult to keep it current so a prominent date when the list was published is very helpful. With regard to the "Man of Straw" the experience of Simon Singh is worth thinking about. The site policy of avoiding comments about service or anything similar, is a wise one.

28th Jun 2010, 10:26 pm	#30
Station X Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ipswich, Suffolk, IP4, UK. Posts: 21,289	Re: Can we have a new list of 'recommended' suppliers? You can post your recommendations for Component Suppliers and Set Repairers in this thread:- https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/...ad.php?t=55701 __________________ Graham. Forum Moderator Reach for your meter before you reach for your soldering iron.