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paulmolive · 9th Jan 2015, 11:40 pm

got the nut off finally! now onto the next hurdle.. I removed the minutes and hours hand but I cannot get at the seconds hand.. i don't want to pull too hard on it. here's a pic

Mike Phelan · 10th Jan 2015, 5:54 pm

Again, Paul, it fits in the same way as the hour hand so see if it rotates a bit by gripping the centre of the hand with thumb and finger (nails if possible); then a straight pull and a bit of a wiggle will do the job.

Nickthedentist · 10th Jan 2015, 6:57 pm

Has the hour hand collet been left in place?

paulmolive · 10th Jan 2015, 9:48 pm

yes the collet came off the hand.. both the seconds and hour hands were very very stubborn. now trying to remove the rod. i'm assuming this little nut has to be removed. i can't see any other way. just thought id check with you guys first

Ed_Dinning · 10th Jan 2015, 9:52 pm

Hi Paul, with decent packing you should be able to leave that attached and Mike or I can remove it.

Ed

Nickthedentist · 10th Jan 2015, 9:56 pm

No, the nut doesn't have to be removed! Think it's actually a rivet anyway.

The hand set rod just unscrews. Grasp the threaded shaft it screws onto with fine pliers (where circled in pic below) to stop it rotating, and turn the rod anticlockwise using its knob.

Or sometimes, it's just a taper fit, but the above method still works.

Nick.

paulmolive · 10th Jan 2015, 10:42 pm

Ah! Thanks Nick. Ok it's all set to go. Will mail it to Ed on Monday. I'm so glad I found this forum. You guys have been a tremendous help. Thank you!

Mike Phelan · 11th Jan 2015, 9:54 am

Paul. mail it to me first; I'll PM you.

paulmolive · 2nd Mar 2015, 3:31 am

Huge thank you to Mike Phelan who got my Smiths clock up and running. Terrific guy! Turned out it wasn't a broken coil after all. Also, thank you to everyone for their input on this. So grateful to have found this forum!

PsychMan · 5th Mar 2015, 1:50 pm

Ah, so what was the problem with it running?

Mike Phelan · 5th Mar 2015, 5:05 pm

Mainly just needed a complete service - the rotor was sticking and the motor terminals were very grotty hence no buzzing.
The coil was fine, and I think had been replaced at some time in the past.

I riveted the hour hand collet.

9th Jan 2015, 11:40 pm	#41
paulmolive Triode Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 24	Re: Smiths Sectric Repair got the nut off finally! now onto the next hurdle.. I removed the minutes and hours hand but I cannot get at the seconds hand.. i don't want to pull too hard on it. here's a pic Attached Thumbnails

10th Jan 2015, 5:54 pm	#42
Mike Phelan Dekatron Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Near Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK Posts: 4,609	Re: Smiths Sectric Repair Again, Paul, it fits in the same way as the hour hand so see if it rotates a bit by gripping the centre of the hand with thumb and finger (nails if possible); then a straight pull and a bit of a wiggle will do the job. __________________ Mike.

10th Jan 2015, 6:57 pm	#43
Nickthedentist Dekatron Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oxford, UK. Posts: 17,874	Re: Smiths Sectric Repair Has the hour hand collet been left in place?

10th Jan 2015, 9:48 pm	#44
paulmolive Triode Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 24	Re: Smiths Sectric Repair yes the collet came off the hand.. both the seconds and hour hands were very very stubborn. now trying to remove the rod. i'm assuming this little nut has to be removed. i can't see any other way. just thought id check with you guys first Attached Thumbnails

10th Jan 2015, 9:52 pm	#45
Ed_Dinning Dekatron Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne, Tyne & Wear, UK. Posts: 8,199	Re: Smiths Sectric Repair Hi Paul, with decent packing you should be able to leave that attached and Mike or I can remove it. Ed

10th Jan 2015, 9:56 pm	#46
Nickthedentist Dekatron Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oxford, UK. Posts: 17,874	Re: Smiths Sectric Repair No, the nut doesn't have to be removed! Think it's actually a rivet anyway. The hand set rod just unscrews. Grasp the threaded shaft it screws onto with fine pliers (where circled in pic below) to stop it rotating, and turn the rod anticlockwise using its knob. Or sometimes, it's just a taper fit, but the above method still works. Nick. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Nickthedentist; 10th Jan 2015 at 10:06 pm.

10th Jan 2015, 10:42 pm	#47
paulmolive Triode Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 24	Re: Smiths Sectric Repair Ah! Thanks Nick. Ok it's all set to go. Will mail it to Ed on Monday. I'm so glad I found this forum. You guys have been a tremendous help. Thank you!

11th Jan 2015, 9:54 am	#48
Mike Phelan Dekatron Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Near Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK Posts: 4,609	Re: Smiths Sectric Repair Paul. mail it to me first; I'll PM you. __________________ Mike.

2nd Mar 2015, 3:31 am	#49
paulmolive Triode Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 24	Re: Smiths Sectric Repair Huge thank you to Mike Phelan who got my Smiths clock up and running. Terrific guy! Turned out it wasn't a broken coil after all. Also, thank you to everyone for their input on this. So grateful to have found this forum!

5th Mar 2015, 1:50 pm	#50
PsychMan Octode Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Fleet, Hampshire, UK Posts: 1,765	Re: Smiths Sectric Repair Ah, so what was the problem with it running?

5th Mar 2015, 5:05 pm	#51
Mike Phelan Dekatron Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Near Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK Posts: 4,609	Re: Smiths Sectric Repair Mainly just needed a complete service - the rotor was sticking and the motor terminals were very grotty hence no buzzing. The coil was fine, and I think had been replaced at some time in the past. I riveted the hour hand collet. __________________ Mike.