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30th Jan 2015, 11:26 pm | #61 |
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Re: Interfacing a SATA drive to an older PC with only IDE interfaces
I've used those ide to sata adapters many times, in PCs and CCTV video recorders, never had any problem.
You should find there's a link on the board to select master or slave since you can't do it on the actual drive...does yours have that? The SATA drive is effectively seen by the MB as an IDE drive and the adapter works otherwise transparently.
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31st Jan 2015, 10:59 am | #62 |
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Re: Interfacing a SATA drive to an older PC with only IDE interfaces
The adaptor does have a 'master or slave' selector, changeable by pulling out a small 2-pole plug and reversing it's positon. I've tried it both positions, the problems which shut down my PC happened with the selector in the 'master' position, and with the original HDD still connected to the IDE cable, but unpowered. Since the PC is now working again without the SATA/IDE adaptor connected, I can only assume that this was the cause of the fault, since unplugging the second HDD, but leaving the adaptor connected didn't!
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31st Jan 2015, 8:38 pm | #63 |
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Re: Interfacing a SATA drive to an older PC with only IDE interfaces
Problem Solved! All down to a poor connection between the SATA/IDE Adaptor and the WD Hard Drive, caused by two plastic stoppers/covers fitted over two screws holding the case of the adaptor together. With the selector on the adaptor set to 'slave' I can now read all the data on the WD HDD, transfer it to CD or memory stick, etc. The other functions of the PC are all working as normal, too!
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31st Jan 2015, 9:11 pm | #64 |
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Re: Interfacing a SATA drive to an older PC with only IDE interfaces
Excellent. Now you've cracked the interface you could use it to add an extra drive to your PC.
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31st Jan 2015, 10:50 pm | #65 |
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Re: Interfacing a SATA drive to an older PC with only IDE interfaces
Hello,
Really good news. I had a feeling you would get there. Michael |
2nd Feb 2015, 12:06 am | #66 | |
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Re: What is this connector called?
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/40-x-New-D...#ht_3870wt_973 The housings/shells are available in single or twin rows - in a range of sizes (number of ways), and the crimp connectors are available in both male and female. Popular sized cables are sold ready made. However, if the required size isn't available, I usually purchase the housings and a ready crimped ribbon cable, like this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/40pcs-Dupo...#ht_6261wt_975 It's then just a simple matter of pealing off a suitable amount of the ribbon cable, and pushing the connectors into the housings (a lot easier than crimping loads of leads). |
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2nd Feb 2015, 10:25 am | #67 |
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Re: Interfacing a SATA drive to an older PC with only IDE interfaces
Having succesfully connected the WD HDD to the PC, using the Maplin SATA/IDE Converter, I won't now be needing those leads, but, thank you, hysteresis, for those eBay links. The DuPont connectors may be needed another time.
Regarding the SATA/IDE adaptor, it's,as mentioned, all working OK, and I've been able to burn some of the files on the HDD to a CDRW, the only od thing is that now every time I boot up the computer, it goes through the 'Checkdisk' procedure, always checking the added drive 'G', whereas before it very rarely did this. Could it be because the added drive just hanging on the ribbon cable temprorarily? I'll screw it into the spare bay in the tower ASAP, now that I know it works. |
2nd Feb 2015, 10:40 pm | #68 |
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3rd Feb 2015, 11:32 pm | #69 |
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Re: Interfacing a SATA drive to an older PC with only IDE interfaces
'Chkdic' only happens when the added HDD is connected. Could it be that it's caused by the fact that it came from another computer, on which the data it contains was recorded?
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4th Feb 2015, 1:34 am | #70 |
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Re: Interfacing a SATA drive to an older PC with only IDE interfaces
It's probably something to do with the OS treating the drive as removable media like a pendrive, and not dismounting it properly at shutdown. I'm no longer a Windows expert so can't suggest a solution, though it's unlikely to do any harm if you can live with the startup delay.
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4th Feb 2015, 1:44 pm | #71 |
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Re: Interfacing a SATA drive to an older PC with only IDE interfaces
Hello,
Have you tried hibernating the PC instead of shutting it down? Michael |
8th Feb 2015, 12:19 pm | #72 |
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Re: Interfacing a SATA drive to an older PC with only IDE interfaces
Michael, This PC has 'Standby', 'Turn off' and 'Restart' buttons, but no 'Hibernate' feature as such. I could try putting it in Standby mode, I guess. One thing I've confirmed since last posting in this thread, is that the computer only goes to 'chkdisk' mode with the WD SATA drive connected, and it indicates that the problem is to do with Drive Partiton 'G', as I mentioned in post #67. Since 'chkd.sk' & Autochk.exe isn't included in the list of Scheduled Tasks, I cannot, as suggested on the Microsoft support website, delete this function, so I guess I'll either live with the slight delay involved, or remove the added drive when it isn't needed.
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8th Feb 2015, 2:00 pm | #73 |
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Re: Interfacing a SATA drive to an older PC with only IDE interfaces
Leaving the PC in 'standby' for over an hour, meant that it booted up OK, but this surely doesn't prove anything.. until I switch it fully off, and see what happens next time I boot up!
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8th Feb 2015, 2:48 pm | #74 |
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Re: Interfacing a SATA drive to an older PC with only IDE interfaces
Hello,
I think you have to enable 'hibernate' in Control Panel, otherwise the function does not appear. I have a Windows XP computer where hibernate works fine. Michael |
10th Feb 2015, 7:51 pm | #75 |
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Re: Interfacing a SATA drive to an older PC with only IDE interfaces
You have to press the shift key when you want to hibernate whilst on the shut down options screen and sleep magically becomes hibernate. As far as stuck in chk dsk loop I used to see this a lot but can't remember the exact operations required to cure it. Luckily Microsoft can https://support.microsoft.com/kb/831426?wa=wsignin1.0
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14th Feb 2015, 10:17 am | #76 | |
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Re: Interfacing a SATA drive to an older PC with only IDE interfaces
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chkntfs /x G: then reboot to test. |
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