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13th Jan 2014, 11:59 pm | #1 |
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1970s White...what should it be?
Hi folks,
I'm currently restoring a 1970s Dynatron HFC 36 for my daughter. The case is (or, rather, was) white but it's been badly stained with nicotine, water and other unidentifiable muck. The paint has decomposed so it is powdery and any cleaning just strips what's left. It's simply just too mucky to leave as patina so we've decided on a light sand and respray. She likes her vintage and things to feel just right so would prefer an 'authentic' white, and I like that idea. But I'm struggling to work out what it should be. I'm pretty sure a 1970s white isn't a contemporary 'brilliant white', nor that grey/blue tint in 'paper-white', nor is it that creamy 'Old English White'. I'm not even sure how glossy it should be - the paint has decomposed to matt but I would have thought it would have had some gloss originally. Does anyone have any suggestions? Or am I just being too finicky? Best, Geoff |
14th Jan 2014, 12:21 am | #2 |
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Re: 1970s White...what should it be?
'Antique White' aerosols are widely available - some are just 'off white' - others are almost cream.
Google "ANTIQUE WHITE GLOSS Fast Dry Rustoleum Spray Paint Aerosol 400ml" for an example of what's available. Hope that helps.
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14th Jan 2014, 3:36 am | #3 |
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Re: 1970s White...what should it be?
Memory tells me they were a pretty uncompromising white, with indeed some element of gloss - http://audiogold.co.uk/wp-content/up...ldringGL75.jpg is the only photo of a white '70s Dynatron music centre I found online just now, and its quite stark white agrees with what I remember of them. Then, just about any forty year old white paint finish will have yellowed to some visible extent by now, and the paper and dyes in catalogues will have changed - without an original specification for the paint it's impossible to know exactly how it would have looked, and even debatable whether you'd want to reproduce that in any case. It's a question that divides restorers, whether the ideal end is an item looking as though it's just left the factory, or as though it's spent its however many years in a careful and smoke-free home environment. I certainly lean toward the latter myself, but mostly by way of being minimal in active restoration, I'm not so sure I would deliberately pick a shade of paint to try to simulate the effect of the passing years.
Just some thoughts which may or may not help at all. I think these music centres when new were as stark a white as http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...L._SL1500_.jpg - http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/73...0f382228fa.jpg shows a Murphy TV of the period, which I'd guess would have been a good visual match. Paul |
14th Jan 2014, 4:06 am | #4 |
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Re: 1970s White...what should it be?
If it was a stark white then something like RAL 9010 may have been the original shade.
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14th Jan 2014, 9:57 am | #5 |
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Re: 1970s White...what should it be?
In the 1970s BMC cars followed Old English White with Glacier White. Think MGB GTs, lots of white ones around, including mine. Still available in aerosol cans although maybe not in Halfords. Try MG Owners Club if stuck.
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14th Jan 2014, 4:04 pm | #6 |
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Re: 1970s White...what should it be?
HI Geoff,
I don't tink you are being too finiky at all Things were bright in the '70s... I'd go for a clean bright pure white with an egshell (satin) finish, that won't be too far away from authentic if my mind serves me! Good luck with this - how about a pic when you're done Steve.
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14th Jan 2014, 5:41 pm | #7 |
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Re: 1970s White...what should it be?
Ford did Ermine white, it was whiter than BMC old english.
But beware, car paint can react badly to other paints and produce bubbles and crackle. David
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15th Jan 2014, 8:59 pm | #8 |
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Re: 1970s White...what should it be?
Hi Geoff,
I resprayed some Wharfdale speakers that had a 70,s look to them and used Ford Diamond white over light grey undercoat . Cheers Mark |
16th Jan 2014, 12:40 am | #9 |
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Re: 1970s White...what should it be?
Yea Yea Yea!!!! Well done.
They look great - just as I remember them Steve.
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