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Old 20th Jan 2012, 6:30 am   #1
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Default Civilian receiver knobs

I recently bought this radio from New Zealand. It has been painted white and a dial glass and timber escutcheon have been added.
I can strip the paint and remove the dial additions. I'm wondering if the knobs are correct.
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Old 20th Jan 2012, 7:46 am   #2
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Hello Peter,

These sets were made by most of the prominent manufacturers of the day, as you probably know: if there's a code in the form Uxx stamped on the visible area of the chassis, the number xx identifies the manufacturer. From those I've seen, each company used whatever knobs - and loudspeaker cloth - were to hand, so very often they're of patterns used on the same company's final pre-war or early wartime models, and there's no single correct knob type for the Wartime Civilian set. Yours look quite plausible to me: I'm not sure which make(s) of sets they would have appeared on, I think possibly Cossor.

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Hi Peter,

As paul said, manufacturers of the day used what they had to hand at the time and by looking at your photos it seems to suggest that yours is a U9 made by Pye limited. Having looked at the U9 in my collection, the knobs on your certainly are the same style as fitted to mine. So it would seem to suggest that they are the orginals fitted.
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Thanks Paul
My set has a U9 on the back, which I've read identifies the set as a Pye.

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U9 is the code for Pye, as Paul rightly says, the knobs used would be what the manufacturer had in stock at the time.
If you check the link below, you will see that your knobs are the originals.
http://www.thevalvepage.com/radios/w...s/warmains.htm

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Thanks for the link, Mark. It also shows the unshielded IF which had left me wondering somewhat.

Here is a pic of the chassis in my set.
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I see it still retains it's original rectifier. I have three civvy sets, one of which is totally original including all valves and despite never being touched it is still in working order

These sets work well when restored, watch out for the 'Westector', this can be repaired if faulty by fitting a small diode inside.

Post #2 of this thread contains the label for the top of the set, should help with the cabinet refurb.
https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/...civilian+radio

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If you are careful when removing the paint, you may be lucky and find the label on the top of the cabinet still intact. My set has the long wave conversion added and is in regular use.

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each company used whatever knobs - and loudspeaker cloth - were to hand
Which helps make cosmetic restoration of these sets very easy. Any old cloth will look right.
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Oops, yes, U9 is plain enough on the chassis photo, which I'd squinted at for a little while trying to make out where a code might be faintly stamped in blue ink! Yes, most period cloths will look good on these sets. As it happens I used cloth salvaged from a rotted Pye International cabinet on my own first example, U41 hence Solectric though I've seen a few lists saying that they only made the battery version.

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Many thanks for all the answers, gentlemen.

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The knobs were pretty dirty, and thinking they were bakelite, I dropped them in a jar with Napisan and water. I find this is a good way of removing dirt and grease from bakelite.

The knobs are in fact made of hard rubber, painted brown/black. The Napisan stripped off the paint. No big drama, as I can respray them.
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