Printing decals for applying to wood. - UK Vintage Radio Repair and Restoration Discussion Forum

RoundyMooney · 21st Jul 2007, 6:48 pm

This is a tricky one, and something I'll no doubt come across when I refinish my latest project (a HMV).

A good few sets I've seen have had the logo on top, under the finish, or in some cases function labels near the knobs (such as volume, tone etc.)

I know that these can be knocked up on photoshop, printed on transparent paper and stuck on before lacquer etc., but how successful have your results been, and has anyone a different solution?

As always, thanks in advance.

Ryan.

Radio_Dave · 21st Jul 2007, 7:47 pm

The trouble is that a printer assumes you are printing onto white paper. As soon as you try to print anything lighter than the printers primary colours onto transparent media, you start getting transparent dots.

I got around the problem with a Marconi by printing two logos onto waterslide paper. One had the black, blue and red colours. The other, just, had the black outline inside which I hand painted with gold paint.

When dry the gold one was applied first and the other went on top

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...I've attached some photos, because I think they'll explain better than I just have

David

RoundyMooney · 21st Jul 2007, 9:06 pm

That's some tasty workmanship there, David.

Specifically, the image here is what I'm going to attempt, a bog standard HMV logo, about an inch or so high, thankfully, the only decal on the set.

I had a Pilot (P44?) through my hands a few years ago, and it had a seperate gold leaf lettered decal for the four knobs on the cabinet, which would quadruple the work.

The inability to print lighter shades is also a problem when it comes to dial scales, as they invariably have white lettering too, but that's a problem for another day.

Thanks for the helpful input

http://home.no.net/errykkje/Grammofon/hmv_logo.jpg

PWH · 21st Jul 2007, 9:12 pm

Superb Job!

I have tried for ages to get this right without success. Mine were nearly right but not good as good as these. Would you consider making the artwork available to me by PM to save me re inventing the wheel?
Thanks

Radio_Dave · 21st Jul 2007, 11:45 pm

Yeah, if anyone wants the artwork for the above Marconi logo, just PM me an email address

David

Aerodyne · 22nd Jul 2007, 5:33 pm

RoundyMooney - I have artwork for HMV similar to yours but with the background cleared. If you'd like a copy via email - or anyone else would, for that matter - just PM me.
Dave - I've PM'd you re a copy of your excellent artwork for the Marconi.
-Tony

RoundyMooney · 22nd Jul 2007, 6:50 pm

Tony, that's most kind, and I'd be delighted to get a copy of that.

Thanks again,

Ryan.

RoundyMooney · 1st Aug 2007, 3:31 pm

David, received with much thanks.

An excellent rendition

21st Jul 2007, 6:48 pm	#1
RoundyMooney Tetrode Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Cork, Ireland Posts: 56	Printing decals for applying to wood. This is a tricky one, and something I'll no doubt come across when I refinish my latest project (a HMV). A good few sets I've seen have had the logo on top, under the finish, or in some cases function labels near the knobs (such as volume, tone etc.) I know that these can be knocked up on photoshop, printed on transparent paper and stuck on before lacquer etc., but how successful have your results been, and has anyone a different solution? As always, thanks in advance. Ryan. __________________ Putting the smoke back into antiquated junk since 1977

21st Jul 2007, 7:47 pm	#2
Radio_Dave Nonode Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK. Posts: 2,543	Re: Decals on wood The trouble is that a printer assumes you are printing onto white paper. As soon as you try to print anything lighter than the printers primary colours onto transparent media, you start getting transparent dots. I got around the problem with a Marconi by printing two logos onto waterslide paper. One had the black, blue and red colours. The other, just, had the black outline inside which I hand painted with gold paint. When dry the gold one was applied first and the other went on top . ...I've attached some photos, because I think they'll explain better than I just have David Attached Thumbnails

21st Jul 2007, 9:06 pm	#3
RoundyMooney Tetrode Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Cork, Ireland Posts: 56	Re: Decals on wood That's some tasty workmanship there, David. Specifically, the image here is what I'm going to attempt, a bog standard HMV logo, about an inch or so high, thankfully, the only decal on the set. I had a Pilot (P44?) through my hands a few years ago, and it had a seperate gold leaf lettered decal for the four knobs on the cabinet, which would quadruple the work. The inability to print lighter shades is also a problem when it comes to dial scales, as they invariably have white lettering too, but that's a problem for another day. Thanks for the helpful input http://home.no.net/errykkje/Grammofon/hmv_logo.jpg __________________ Putting the smoke back into antiquated junk since 1977

21st Jul 2007, 9:12 pm	#4
PWH Heptode Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Waiheke Island, New Zealand Posts: 503	Re: Decals on wood Superb Job! I have tried for ages to get this right without success. Mine were nearly right but not good as good as these. Would you consider making the artwork available to me by PM to save me re inventing the wheel? Thanks

21st Jul 2007, 11:45 pm	#5
Radio_Dave Nonode Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK. Posts: 2,543	Re: Decals on wood Yeah, if anyone wants the artwork for the above Marconi logo, just PM me an email address David

22nd Jul 2007, 5:33 pm	#6
Aerodyne Octode Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Hampton Vale, Peterborough, UK. Posts: 1,698	Re: Decals on wood RoundyMooney - I have artwork for HMV similar to yours but with the background cleared. If you'd like a copy via email - or anyone else would, for that matter - just PM me. Dave - I've PM'd you re a copy of your excellent artwork for the Marconi. -Tony

22nd Jul 2007, 6:50 pm	#7
RoundyMooney Tetrode Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Cork, Ireland Posts: 56	Re: Decals on wood Tony, that's most kind, and I'd be delighted to get a copy of that. Thanks again, Ryan. __________________ Putting the smoke back into antiquated junk since 1977 Last edited by Station X; 22nd Jul 2007 at 9:34 pm. Reason: Email address removed as per forum rule D9. Please use the PM system.

1st Aug 2007, 3:31 pm	#8
RoundyMooney Tetrode Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Cork, Ireland Posts: 56	Re: Decals on wood David, received with much thanks. An excellent rendition __________________ Putting the smoke back into antiquated junk since 1977