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Old 9th Aug 2022, 2:05 pm   #201
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I purchased a BSR UA14 a few years back and was wondering what company manufactured the suitcase style console.
A quick google suggests Silvertone seem to have made some similar units with BSRs. You may have to try looking under all the big US names: Sears, Zenith, Sylvania, Voice of Music, Philco, etc.
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Old 11th Aug 2022, 1:17 pm   #202
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A Photofact wiring diagram for an Olympic model looks like a match. That is the only image I've seen that looks close to my console and the model number 223 probably means they are the same or subvariants. Thanks the input to help identify this console.

Funny that Photofact was published by Howard W. Sams & Co., based out of Indianapolis, where I currently live. I guess the answer to my question was right here all along. I ended up purchasing a nice, inexpensive copy of that Photofact on eBay for future reference.
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Old 22nd Aug 2022, 10:45 am   #203
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First time I've come across a BSR UA8 Monarch in cream/white.
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Old 23rd Aug 2022, 2:21 am   #204
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I had one years ago and it was the only one I'd seen.

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Old 23rd Aug 2022, 3:53 am   #205
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That is the cutest lil record player. Thanks for posting the pictures.

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I have a BSR McDonald Minichanger PS2649 I have not seen listed here, although the model AA50 appears to be the same changer but in a different housing. Does a forum member know when the PS2649 was made and any links to further information? I have ordered a new cartridge and stylus for it, but the changer mechanism works good. Apparently it it came with a plastic cover, but I don't have that.

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Since posting this I have found lots of info about the Minichanger and there are many YouTube videos showing them in operation. Many manufactures used it, often with some interesting cosmetic changes.

I have seen a Westinghouse that looked very much like this. Interesting that there is no identification on it. Maybe some stick-on badge fell off?
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Old 25th Sep 2022, 9:41 pm   #206
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I thought I could post a Pic of this BSR deck I think it's a McDonald 600 but there is no label anywhere on it.

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Either a UA-70 or C-117
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Old 25th Sep 2022, 9:42 pm   #207
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can you tell if the C173 is a multiplay - using an appropriate spindle, able to keep all records in place without an additional lever?
Just out of curiosity, I always saw BSRs with the record placement lever for multiplay.
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If the model number starts with C, it is a record changer. If it starts with P, it is single-play. If your C-series deck doesn't have an overarm, it uses an umbrella spindle.
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Old 1st Jul 2023, 11:54 am   #208
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is it this one? I have never seen one 'in the flesh'
That's not a BSR, it's a Glenburn.
Yes I thought that.... Although it could be one of the later "Glenburn" changers that were actually made by BSR, when Dr. McDonald proprietor of "Glenburn", re-joined BSR and merged Glenburn with BSR. They continued making them with the "Glenburn" mechanics, until the parts were used up, and later "Glenburn's" had BSR mechanics fitted, but modified slightly to continue the use of the rotary control-knobs as in the picture. Once the orders for Glenburn autochangers had been completed, the Glenburn name and changers were discontinued.
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That's not a BSR, it's a Glenburn.
Which post were you attempting to quote from?
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Old 1st Jul 2023, 12:22 pm   #210
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That's not a BSR, it's a Glenburn.
Which post were you attempting to quote from?
He probably refers to my pic in post 19. Not a good size image but it appeared to be a Glenburn AT100.

The BSR-Glenburn hybrid deck is the BSR C180, the photos clearly show BSR components.

For comparison, I have added an internet image of a Glenburn deck with its customary orange cam follower. I'm still after a stack spindle for mine!
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Wow! That was a long time ago, no wonder I couldn't find it easily.

Bad quote in post #208 fixed.
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The 710 and 810 were impressive units but the book is quite right about their operation. Their automatic mechanism was so complicated and difficult to set up it was a fine line between the auto-trip not operating at all and operating far too soon in the middle of the record!

I restored one once and was quite impressed by its performance when I finally got it running after an entire weekend of tweaking (and swearing...) - it was very different to the rest of the shoddy tat (IMHO of course!) that BSR churned out.

After this, I did what my dad told me to when I first developed my obsession with turntables at the age of about 10, and stuck to Garrards!
In my first job, we sold players & changers from BSR, Collaro, Garrard, & sometimes Dual.

The generally accepted progression of quality, from lowest to highest of the normal brands was BSR, Collaro, Garrard, & (just) Dual.

I never warmed to Collaro for some reason & quite liked BSR.

We occasionally had special orders for other, more exotic brands.
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Old 3rd Jul 2023, 3:23 pm   #213
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Ironic though, that the “shoddy tat”, from BSR seems to have lasted rather longer than the more pretentious stuff from Garrard and Collaro!
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Dear Participants in this thread, either new or for 20 years:

I wonder if there is a "fairly" comprehensive list with photos and relevant information of the BSR products made during the company history. It seems there must have been several hundred variations of BSR products as every time I search an auction site with the generic terms "record player" or "turntable", I spot another variation of a BSR product.

Some expert in BSR history ad products must have gathered hundreds of photos of the models, their model numbers, dates in production, etc and could make a very useful website all about BSR.

I just recently acquired my first RCA 45 player and purchased "The Fabulous Victrola 45" book by Phil Vourtsis to get up to speed on the history and photos of the various models, all beautifully collected in one place.

Publishing a book about BSR is an expensive proposition, but a comprehensive website would be a wonderful resource. Another interest of mine is pinball machines and those in the hobby all appreciate the Internet Pinball Resource website for a wealth of photos and information.

This thread is very interesting, but it would be great to put all this accumulated knowledge into one place with high resolution photos and documents.

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Old 5th Jul 2023, 2:14 am   #216
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Thanks Graham. I have a dozen BSR made changers which are all quite common, but if someone organizes an "Internet BSR Resource" website I will contribute photos.
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I toyed with the idea of using all the pictures and IDs in this thread to make an "at a glance" identification page, but never got far with it.
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