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Old 27th Jul 2018, 10:13 pm   #1
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Default The twin towers of Emley Moor

We are line of sight to Emley Moor, about 12 miles away, and can clearly see the new temporary mast erected while work goes on to prepare the main mast for the 700MHz clearance.

I had hoped to take a picture of the lunar eclipse and the two masts but the clouds had other ideas so here is a picture of the twin towers all lit up.

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Old 27th Jul 2018, 10:20 pm   #2
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That is quite a sight, don't like to contemplate the cost.
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Old 27th Jul 2018, 10:27 pm   #3
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Default Re: The twin towers of Emley Moor

I was down in Huddersfield last week and saw it when I popped over to Lamco in Barnsley.
The temporary job is taller than 'Lamb's Lighthouse'.

Megahertz is Megabucks, the theory went.

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What's 700MHz for?
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Old 28th Jul 2018, 5:24 am   #5
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It's for sale!

Or rather that region of the spectrum is going to be auctioned off once all the TV is compressed (pun intentional) into the bottom half of its old band. Belief that the government can raise as much money per megahertz as it did in the 3G bandwidth auctions may be the main engine driving the whole digital TV thing.


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How about a daytime comparison picture, Keith?
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Default Re: The twin towers of Emley Moor

I should have taken a photo, but my camera wasn't in the car. I was on the Penistone-Huddersfield road near Birdsedge and the two masts were clearly separate and the temporary one just a bit taller.

With all those transmitters banging away on the temporary mast, I can't imagine it being healthy working on the old array. Do they plan having shut down times and working overnight/afternoons?

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Old 28th Jul 2018, 9:25 am   #8
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How about a daytime comparison picture, Keith?
The temporary tower is a lot less visible during the day. It's just visible to the naked eye but I'll give it a go later.

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With all those transmitters banging away on the temporary mast, I can't imagine it being healthy working on the old array. Do they plan having shut down times and working overnight/afternoons?
Periods of reduced power and Nardalerts, probably. But this is the sort of information that used to be available on teletext!
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.. or 'transmitter news'.

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With all those transmitters banging away on the temporary mast, I can't imagine it being healthy working on the old array.
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Old 28th Jul 2018, 1:53 pm   #12
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Default Re: The twin towers of Emley Moor

And the daytime view.

(I'm having to upload them as pdfs as reducing the jpg size from the original multi mega pixel photo introduces all sorts of unwanted artifacts)

If I draw a line from our house to Emley Moor following the curvature of the earth we would be about halfway up the tower.

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Default Re: The twin towers of Emley Moor

From my house, they're in the same relative positions but closer together. I don't have a suitable camera though. Despte being at home most days I only caught one of the helicopter lifts during assembly. I can also see most of the Holme Moss tower and the tops of the Moorside Edge masts.
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Default Re: The twin towers of Emley Moor

The temporary one looks remarkably like the old Emley Moor mast..... that turned out to be temporary as well, if rather unanticipated.....
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Perhaps they put all the bits of the old one back together again
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As I said to a chap many years ago over some of his personal mangled wreckage: Of course it can be repaired. It was once an iron age deposit!

The remains of that Emley mast were carted off for scrap after the cause had been established and reported. I remember seeing some of the lorries. Of course, melted down and recycled however many times, it's likely that there may be some of its molecules in the temporary one.

The mast before the fated one, was removed and re-erected beside the north shore of the Forth where it squirts telly at Edinburgh, Fife and the Lothians. With its wide base it looks a bit like the Eiffel tower.

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Old 28th Jul 2018, 9:59 pm   #17
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I do love that tower! Since leaving school, I've found myself living outside Yorkshire and every time I drive back up the M1 there comes a point at which the tower comes in to view and it's like winning the lottery.

"The Angel of the North" is very nice, but not quite in the same league.

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Old 28th Jul 2018, 10:18 pm   #18
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Default Re: The twin towers of Emley Moor

And the concrete mast is a grade 2 listed building so did they have to get permission for all the changes?

We can also see the Holme Moss and Moorside Edge masts from the house so no major problems with TV, FM, DAB and MW reception.

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Old 29th Jul 2018, 4:55 pm   #19
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That left hand tower is like nothing I have ever seen for a TV tower! What's it like,
all that fat base? The right tower looks perfectly normal. How high are they?
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Old 29th Jul 2018, 5:19 pm   #20
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There is a very good write up on Wikipedia, the tower is concrete and 330 metres high, it replaced a tubular guyed mast that collapsed in 1969.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emle...itting_station
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